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::I have incorporated these references and an additional secondary history ref in a new section called "Significance". [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 03:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Kurzon|Kurzon]] Please stop changing the lead sentence without discussion. It is inappropriate per sources and personally rude in my opinion. [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 16:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Scattering section incorrect. ==
 
* Rutherford did not use Thomson's scattering model.
* The formulas partly consider multiple scattering when the claim is single.
* Thomson did not consider Geiger/Marsden results, obviously.
* Thomson never considered large angle scattering in his model.
* the section is based on Thomson's 1910 paper, long after he determined the more correct number of electrons
[[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 01:18, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
 
:I think this section is attempting to do too much. It mixes Thomson/Rutherford theory/experiment and jumbles up the timeline. A better presentation would just focus on Thomson's scattering model as promised and mention Crowther's experimental confirmation. Then, in the next subsection, we can summarize Rutherford scattering experiment and the consequences, already well covered in that article. [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 03:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plum_pudding_model&oldid=1240710478#How_scattering_should_work_according_to_the_Thomson_model This revision] of the article corrects all of the above issues. However @[[User:Kurzon|Kurzon]] reverted it with the edit summary "this is better". [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 15:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah maybe yours is better. I've decided to adapt Heilbron's explanation of how Thomson produced the equation for positive sphere scattering, tell me what you think. [[User:Kurzon|Kurzon]] ([[User talk:Kurzon|talk]]) 15:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Adding Crowther's experimental results. ==