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:Tested the category=no at [[Draft talk:Template:Test banner]] and looks good. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 15:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
== living/blp on categories ==
Is [[Template talk:WikiProject banner shell/Archive 11#living/blp on categories]] not valid anymore? I see categories have started filtering into {{c|Biography articles without living parameter}} when living/blp parameters are not present. Do we really want/need to add living/blp to the ~500k cats under {{c|Category-Class biography articles}}? <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 18:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Seems a bit pointless to add that parameter to a category. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 19:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::And templates. The maintenance burden will be massive. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 19:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Should we also exclude disambiguation pages and redirects? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::No, I don't think mainspace dabs & #Rs should be excluded. If they were excluded, then they could slip through to an easy circumvention of [[WP:NOINDEX]].
::::Now that you mention it...ideally, it'd be nice from a maintenance perspective if dabs & #Rs inherited their target's status, if it exists (for cases where both the dab/#R and its target are tagged with {{tl|WP Bio}}). <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 08:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::You mean that if an article is a GA, then the dab page should be set to GA? [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 08:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Gonnym, we're talking about the {{para|blp}} or {{para|living}} parameters here. I'm not sure inheriting the status of the target would be appropriate. For example [[Matt Doherty Jr.]] redirects to the article on his father [[Matt Doherty (Northern Irish footballer)|Matt Doherty Sr.]]. The former is alive but the latter is not — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 08:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Inheritance could be the weak default, as long as {{para|blp}}/{{para|living}} are blank, but perhaps able to be forced with {{para|blp|inherit}}/{{para|living|inherit}}. Values of <code>yes|no</code> etc. would override any inheritance. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 09:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::I can't understand why you would want to use the living parameter on a disambiguation page. In almost every case there will be some people living and some not. There is also no content on a dab page, so little cause for BLP concerns — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::I may be straying out of my depth, but any dab with a living main/1st target could/should conceivably use {{para|blp|yes}}, for example [[Talk:Joey Lawrence (disambiguation)]], [[Talk:Sai Kumar]], etc. I'm surprised [[Talk:Madonna (disambiguation)]] doesn't even use {{tl|WP Bio}}, but so be it. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 13:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:This was an unintended consequence of a new module to check parameters [[Module:Check blp parameter]]. It should be fixed now — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 19:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
If a page has {{para|blpo|yes}} then presumably it should not be in [[:Category:Biography articles without living parameter]], correct? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 08:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:The wording of [[Template:WikiProject Biography#Living people, active politicians and other BLP issues]] under {{para|blpo}} says "{{tq|It can only be used if {{para|living|no}}}}", so I don't think {{para|blpo|yes}} on its own is enough to exclude it from [[:Category:Biography articles without living parameter]]. I don't know if that dual requirement is a requirement of the previous template coding/logic, or if it was intended to be that way regardless. It does seem redundant to supply {{para|living}} for either {{para|living|no}}{{para|blpo|yes}} or {{para|living|yes}}{{para|activepol|yes}}, but I've never asked nor looked through [[WT:Biography]]/{{tl|WP Bio}} about this. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 10:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone help wit [[:Category:Pages using WikiProject Biography with conflicting living parameter]]? I took the weekend off, and now it's got {{PAGESINCAT:Pages using WikiProject Biography with conflicting living parameter}} pages in it — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:I've fixed a few but I noticed that a bot can easily fix most if not all of these and just needs to check if a page is in that category and also in [[:Category:Living people]]. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 09:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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