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:::::::::::Just to be clear, in the image example you gave, is the top after your change or the bottom? [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 13:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Bottom is after my change. —'''[[User:Matrix|Matrix]](!)''' <sub>ping one</sub><sup>when replying</sup> {''[[User:Matrix|u]] - [[User talk:Matrix|t?]] - [[Special:Contribs/Matrix|<sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>c]]''} 16:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
== Category:Pages using WikiProject [insert project] with unknown parameters ==
In [[Special:WantedPages]], a lot of the most wanted pages are empty categories for pages that use a WikiProject with unknown parameters. In fact, the most wanted page, with nearly <b>120,000</b> pages (most appear to be talk pages) linking to it, is the empty category "Category:Pages using WikiProject Lepidoptera with unknown parameters". Why is that? [[User:BombCraft8|BombCraft8]] <sup>([[User talk:BombCraft8|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/BombCraft8|contributions]])</sup> 00:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
:Okay I know why this is happening. This module uses [[Module:Check for unknown parameters]] and we have to tell it a category to use if it finds any unknown parameters. The default category is Category:Pages using WikiProject PROJECT with unknown parameters where PROJECT is the name of the project. But not all these categories exist, so the module checks if it exists first, and if not it will use the generic [[:Category:WikiProject templates with unknown parameters]] instead. The link to these categories occurs when it checks for existence. I can't change this behaviour at this module, but I will make a suggestion at [[Module talk:Check for unknown parameters]] to see if there is something that can be done there — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
::Ok [[User:BombCraft8|BombCraft8]] <sup>([[User talk:BombCraft8|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/BombCraft8|contributions]])</sup> 01:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::A fix for this is now in the sandbox — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks [[User:BombCraft8|BombCraft8]] <sup>([[User talk:BombCraft8|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/BombCraft8|contributions]])</sup> 13:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::This is now deployed, so they should start clearing out of the wanted categories page soon — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 11:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Ok, thanks [[User:BombCraft8|BombCraft8]] <sup>([[User talk:BombCraft8|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/BombCraft8|contributions]])</sup> 21:00, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] How long should it take for them to clear out on that page? [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii|talk]]) 05:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
== Module work before next sync ==
The following pages are pages I've done work on or are not synced with live version. I'd appreciate if anyone can check my work to see if I missed something.
# [[Module:WikiProject banner/sandbox]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikiProject_banner%2Fsandbox&diff=1254331103&oldid=1253980906 changes])
#* Modified the class usage check to catch non-article usages of the {{para|class}} parameter and add them to the redundant_class category.
#* Converted two hardcoded categories to use the config file.
# [[Module:WikiProject banner/config/sandbox]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikiProject_banner%2Fconfig%2Fsandbox&diff=1254331059&oldid=1252932712 changes])
#* Added the two hardcoded category names to the config file.
# [[Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage/sandbox]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikiProject_banner%2Ftemplatepage%2Fsandbox&diff=1254336276&oldid=1239368643 changes])
#* Added automatic category to templates of Wikipedia:GLAM, which were using a different naming convention.
# [[Module:Banner shell/sandbox]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3ABanner_shell%2Fsandbox&diff=1254317667&oldid=1254137578 changes])
#* Standardized blp usage.
#* Added a check for blp usage to make sure it is in sync with the main page category.
#* Moved related blp strings to config file.
# [[Module:Banner shell/config/sandbox]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3ABanner_shell%2Fconfig%2Fsandbox&diff=1254311299&oldid=1252954631 changes])
#* Added blp strings to config file.
# [[Module:WikiProject banner/sandbox/styles.css]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ComparePages&page1=Module%3AWikiProject+banner%2Fstyles.css&page2=Module%3AWikiProject+banner%2Fsandbox%2Fstyles.css changes]; not mine)
Additionally, the following pages have inline CSS (search for "TODO") that should be moved to the .css file before next sync.
* [[Module:WikiProject banner/auxiliary/sandbox]]
* [[Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage/sandbox]]
* [[Module:Banner shell/sandbox]]
This file also has a TODO that should be solved:
* [[Module:WikiProject banner/sandbox/styles.css]]
[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 14:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:There is quite a lot to look at here, so may take me a while ... I don't agree with these "TODO" tasks that you are adding in the code. You can make the fixes yourself but it's not fair to try to make others do it — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 17:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
::We can't and shouldn't have two sources which we take information from. Since the .css file and the config file were created (not by me), the css and any config related data should be there. The tags are in the /sandbox and not in the live version. No one is forced to do the work, but the tag should still stay there, as it's completely correct. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 17:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
:RE 1, is it really worthwhile tracking redundant class values which are ignored anyway? I can't really see the benefit and I can see some drawbacks. For example, an article is rated Stub-class and is moved to Draft namespace. If this class is removed then when/if the article is moved back to mainspace the rating would be lost. Why don't we continue to ignore these class parameters? They are not doing any harm — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
::That's a good argument for excluding draft space, but this would be useful for most !mainspace areas, like categories, templates, files, etc. Could a small list of excluded namespaces be used instead of a blanket-!mainspace conditional? <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 10:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Okay I suppose I could get behind this if User and Draft namespaces were excluded. These are the ones which are potential articles — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:RE 2, okay fine. The reason I did not do this before, is this is intended to be a temporary tracking category. As soon as we have caught all the listas values then we can remove this completely and they will be tracked by unknown parameter categories. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
:RE 3, {{done}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
:RE 4, some problems here. For example the blp status would never get past the living check so activepol would never be looked at. I have removed the "dead" status for now to fix this, but have not had a chance to look at the category checking code yet. The category [[:Category:Deaths]] is not used, so I don't think that will work. I think all this code should be removed until there is a better plan of what we want to achieve and how to do it — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 23:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
:RE 5, see 4. RE 6, there are no changes to review here — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 23:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
== WP:VRT ==
Since it's not a typical WikiProject, {{tl|WikiProject VRT}} <s>displays</s> displayed a red link if placed inside the shell, but a blue link if placed on its own. I created [[Wikipedia:WikiProject VRT]] to match the expected WikiProject link, but is it possible to make the template link to [[Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team]] directly when inside the shell? <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 11:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:I've added the PROJECT_LINK param. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 17:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
::I've also changed the name to "Volunteer Response Team". VRT means nothing to most people — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::[[Bristol VRT]], a British model of double-deck bus chassis. The letters indicate the engine orientation and position (Vertical, Rear, Transverse). I've known about this since about 1980. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Are you a [[bus spotter]] by any chance? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:28, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
== Featured page status ==
I was looking at [[File talk:For the First Time in Forever A Frozen Sing-Along Celebration Logo.jpg]] which is marked as a FM, but it isn't, and was wondering if we can have the bot handle these like it handles [[:Category:Wikipedia vital articles needing attention]]. It could go over the pairs of (or if there is a better way):
* [[:Category:Featured articles]] and [[:Category:Wikipedia featured articles]]
* [[:Category:Featured lists]] and [[:Category:Wikipedia featured lists]]
* [[:Category:Featured pictures]] and [[:Category:Wikipedia featured pictures]] (which currently isn't populated for some reason)
* [[:Category:Good articles]] and [[:Category:Wikipedia good articles]]
It should sync the talk page with the non-talk page version, with the non-files it could either lower one level down or completely remove the class value leaving it for editors to fill in. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 15:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:Would it better to populate a tracking category, rather than attempting to automatically change the rating? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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