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:My view: Cups have winners who lift a physical cup they won, championships have title champions. That was adhered to historically and there is a difference between them which has now been lost even by the FIA across their own regulations after definitions have already been set. To no surprise, usage and definitions are argued across Motorsport Wikipedia. So, it appears acceptable to interchange a lot of these terms, because ''sources exist'', so that is the position I will support even though it's not my preferred outcome. [[User:Rally Wonk|Rally Wonk]] ([[User talk:Rally Wonk|talk]]) 19:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::I will not attempt to define title because it's not up to me to do that. Governing bodies do that for us and we reflect the actual events. [[User:Tvx1|T]][[User Talk:Tvx1|v]][[Special:Contributions/Tvx1|x]]1 19:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::I'm not sure I see this precept that Championship wins are titles and Cup wins aren't. For instance, the headline karting competition, the [[FIA Karting World Championship]], is a stand-alone race. [[User:MSport1005|MSport1005]] ([[User talk:MSport1005|talk]]) 19:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Just to put it out there: The issue has been brought to the attention of the Wikipedia admins. The relevant discussion can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Persistent_violation_of_established_consensus_on_McLaren_Driver_Development_Programme here]. [[User:SportscarFan2004|SportscarFan2004]] ([[User talk:SportscarFan2004|talk]]) 19:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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