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::::::::And as for F1 world manufacturers we have this examples about McLaren title [https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/facts-and-stats-mclarens-record-26-year-title-wait-ends-and-leclerc-scores.2eFJvtofZMatNNagF8f2NT 1] and [https://www.planetf1.com/news/abu-dhabi-grand-prix-2024-race-report 2].
::::::::But I agree its interesting discussing this things, especially the past and how the things evolved through history. [[User:Rpo.castro|Rpo.castro]] ([[User talk:Rpo.castro|talk]]) 17:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::''"I think we should look: given any club that have won the FA club, will it be listed among the titles they have or not?"''
:::::::::The club's websites can say different things. The [https://www.thefa.com/-/media/thefacom-new/files/competitions/2024-25/efac/rules-of-the-fa-challenge-cup-2024-25.ashx FA Cup rules] do not use the words title or champion. Very little there except ''"The Association shall loan the Trophy to the Club that wins the Competition."''
:::::::::Rule C.11. of the Premier League says ''"the Club which is at the top of the League Table following the completion of the Competition shall be the League Champions."''. This is the definition of the title (in capitals) bestowed on the club at the top of the table, else there's no point in the rule.
:::::::::See [https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230603125223-05-fa-cup-final-man-city-man-united-0603.jpg FA Cup winners], [https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?q=Carabao%20Cup%20Final%202024%20Results%20Cx&w=1280&h=720&c=5&rs=1&p=0 Carabao Cup winners], but [https://cdn.sillyseason.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Premier-League-winners-list-by-year-All-time-past-winners-scaled.jpg Premier League Champions].
:::::::::If a list has competition wins such as "1978 FA Cup, 1985 Division 1, 1995 Champions' League, 2001 Premier League etc"; then these are (informal) [https://www.ldoceonline.com/Sport-topic/title type 1 titles], no? They are the names of the competitions, not the position bestowed upon the club? Which means to say a club that won the FA Cup title sounds as pointless as "Rpo.castro title makes some great edits on Wikipedia title." (If that's the same as the 'Sir' point you made I apologise) Look at the [https://www.ldoceonline.com/Sport-topic/title type 4 example with Tyson], they don't ''name'' the competition but the [[List of WBA world champions|Champion '''position''']] that Tyson won from those that could bestow it on him. F1 Champions in the examples you post are type 4 title holders, they are Champions.
:::::::::"FA Cup holders" and "FA Cup winners" sounds better than "FA Cup title holders" and "FA Cup title winners" as there's no title bestowed. "Premier League champions" or "the title holders" is better than "Championship title holders". Perhaps the simplest question could be is "winner" a title? No.
:::::::::Anyway, here's some FA Cup winner's links that cannot say this is wrong. They prefer the term "Honours" in general, to what you are calling 'titles'.
:::::::::*[https://www.manutd.com/en/History/Trophy-Room/ Man United]
:::::::::*[https://www.mancity.com/club/honours/team Man City]
:::::::::*[https://www.pnefc.net/club/history/club-history Preston]
:::::::::*[https://www.evertonfc.com/club/history/honours/honours-and-records Everton]
:::::::::[[User:Rally Wonk|Rally Wonk]] ([[User talk:Rally Wonk|talk]]) 19:10, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
::I'm not sure I see this precept that Championship wins are titles and Cup wins aren't. For instance, the headline karting competition, the [[FIA Karting World Championship]], is a stand-alone race. [[User:MSport1005|MSport1005]] ([[User talk:MSport1005|talk]]) 19:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::A championship can be a stand-alone race. The ''winner'' of the race is awarded the ''title'' of ''champion driver'' amongst awards such as prize money and physical trophies. Traditionally, cup winners didn't get a title, but now they can be called champions, title holders and so on, depending who wrote it and where you look.
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