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:The comment was "'''some''' of the sources don't mention Optigram or are only passing mentions" (emphasis added). It doesn't say that ''none'' of them contain in-depth material about him.
:But the purpose of a citation is to provide verification of a statement about the subject, so if a source does not mention the subject, it is rarely of any value as a source, and should usually be removed. If a source contains a passing mention of the subject, it may possibly provide verification for an uncontroversial factual statement in the article (and should be removed if it doesn't), but it cannot contribute to establishing that the subject is [[WP:notable|notable]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:25, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::Sorry, I hadn't intended to suggest that the comment was saying that '''none''' of the sources mention Optigram, I thoughtlessly omitted the word '''some''' from the comment. I only meant to say that I had checked and only found one that didn't. I have removed that citation from the article and simplified the sentence so as not to require it.
::As for your comments about citations sometimes being useful for verification, yes that's what I thought too, so it's good to have that clarified. None of those passing mentions were meant to establish notability, they were only to verify the facts in the article. There are plenty of other citations within the article which do establish notability, in my opinion. Do you feel that's still disputable? [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 19:32, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
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