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:::In the meantime, I suggest using only [[WP:good articles|good articles]] or [[WP:featured articles|featured articles]] as models.
:::See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
::::Thank you, that's interesting to know, and the Other Stuff Exists page makes some good points!
::::At the Design Museum exhibition there was a long wall that featured work by three designers: Optigram, [[The Designers Republic]], and [[Tomato (design collective)]] and nearby there was a piece of product design by [[Yuri Suzuki (designer)]]. These are the three articles I used as a guide. Having now understood the criteria for an acceptable reference I don't think any of the references in those three articles qualify as "independent" by Wikipedia's definition of the word. That being said, I don't think there can be any question that those three designers/design collectives are notable (The Designers Republic in particular have been extremely influential) so I don't think the articles should be deleted. But I'm not sure how many, if any, independent sources actually exist in order for their references to be improved. The Designers Republic have two substantial publications devoted to them but in both instances they put the whole thing together themselves.
::::I think all this does show that notability does invite publications and platforms to approach those kinds of designers for interviews for their features. There were actually several other interviews with Optigram which I didn't use because the ones I used seemed more than enough, ha.
::::Looking at the Good Articles page it was disappointing to note that there aren't any designers listed (graphic or otherwise). It's a shame that the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphic design]] group which was set up to enhance the presence and understanding of graphic design subjects on Wikipedia seems to be inactive. It would have been interesting to hear their perspective.
::::There was one other artist/designer featured near to the Optigram display in the Design Museum: [[Abdul Qadim Haqq]]. His Wikipedia article seems to have some major issues as a lot of it just reads like a press release. I did actually consider rewriting it as he is someone whose work I love and he is definitely important, but I was worried about getting into an edit war with the original authors. [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 11:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
== 20:57, 3 May 2025 review of submission by Iindmusician ==
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