Talk:V (programming language): Difference between revisions

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Wukunendo comment made to Caleb prior to his reverts: "Please stop engaging in edit wars. Read your talk page. Be specific in V's talk page or reply to your talk page. Do not violate the three-revert rule" (changes are after this request and without any consensus).

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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V_(programming_language)&diff=prev&oldid=1183470155]

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== 0xDeadbeef series of edits/reverts/tags without discussion or consensus==

Includes removal of sources, shown above.

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# 07:4039, 11 November 2023‎2023 0xDeadbeef talk contribs‎contribs 15,527607 bytes −80‎ →‎Features:−779 rm, thefirst statementsource withhas no claims on the primarylanguage's performance, second source is your usual "how to install x" article that isn't reliable (usually just copies information from others), and third source previouslyis removedself-published. undo Tag:

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::The question looks like it's being asked as if suggestions, compromises, or specifics were never/are not given. All while the tagging (continuous changing of tags), degradation, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing disruptive looking editing] continues. New tags now placed, "Non-important content should likely be moved to another article or removed", are creating the appearance that more content should be removed. This, after yourself and what appear to be selected editors had already removed lots of relevant content without debate. And that content being removed, was already a compromise.

::A very clear example of what was done: On [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V_(programming_language)&diff=cur&oldid=1184471742 16:46, 10 November 2023‎2023], the article was already a compromise by the editors involved with Caleb's rewritten version. After already a contentious process (not even counting the draft period) to reach compromises with Caleb's rewritten version, you then came to the article.

::You (0xDeadbeef) have made the last '''23''' of the last '''30 edits''' (and counting), since Caleb's last edit. This has been intense, turbulent, and an odd sustained focus on this particular article. For unclear reasons, because it's not like research and editing on a draft for an upcoming review.

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::::::::Regarding citing books or documentation, there is nothing wrong with that but it is important to properly cite sources and when entire sections are copied it is important that the license of the source is respected which is not the case here.

::::::::To mention it again, the text is a 1:1 copy from the docs which puts it under the MIT license which requires states

::::::::<blockquote>The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.</blockquote>

::::::::</blockquote> attributing the original source is good enough in this case.

::::::::I'll put the license notice back up with a full summary that explains everything I have written down here because Talk sections can be archived making it impossible to find this message. [[User:Jan200101|Jan200101]] ([[User talk:Jan200101|talk]]) 20:59, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Being told what to do by unknown persons on {{tq|'''IRC'''}} is {{tq|'''not'''}} Wikipedia policy or a noticeboard. Repeating {{tq|'''false claims'''}}, do not make them facts, Wikipedia policy, consensus, or a decision from a Wikipedia noticeboard. Tags referring to {{tq|'''years old'''}} and {{tq|'''partially non-English drafts'''}} are not the present article. Trying to force {{tq|'''misinformation'''}} into an article can be seen as subtle vandalism ([[WP:SNEAKY]]). [[User:Wukuendo|Wukuendo]] ([[User talk:Wukuendo|talk]]) 02:29, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

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::::::::::::::I'm trying, in good faith, to get you to understand this so we can resolve this dispute through a third party.

::::::::::::::But because this appears to be going nowhere I'm giving you an ultimatum: In 24 hours I will submit this article to [[Wikipedia:Copyright_problems]] myself, this will require that the following template be put on the article

::::::::::::::{{template:tl|copyvio}}{{template:tl|Copyvio/bottom}} which will hide the content from view and since you keep accusing me of vandalism you should understand that removing this template all constitutes as avoidant vandalism. [[User:Jan200101|Jan200101]] ([[User talk:Jan200101|talk]]) 07:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

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