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::::We do not need all these separate user rights, we just need to give out adminship to everyone who would volunteer more effectively with it. I would happily vote for abolishing the template editor permission. —[[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 15:13, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Kusma|Kusma]] That is very much a systemic issue, I think the [[WP:TPE]] user-right has a place when it comes to technical work -- it is a simple check of "do you understand that editing templates is very different from normal editing with different social expectations". However, [[WT:DYK]] appears to see it more as "adminship but not really" and that thinking is (I agree with you) kinda redundant and flawed to begin with and should be remedied by giving out adminship more freely. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2; display: inline-block; transform: rotate(0.3deg)">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 05:52, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::I agree that how DYK uses TPE is a bit weird, but it was a reaction to an untenable situation. We had a chronic problem with not enough people working on queues. The few admins working on that were burned out and the work wasn't getting done. And unlike most other processes on the wiki, DYK runs on a clock. When the big hand hits midnight and all the queues are empty, that's bad.
::::::Despite numerous entreaties to the various regulars who were working on other DYK tasks, I was unable to convince any of them to run for admin. I agree with @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] that a distinct user right (or a more fine-grained user rights system in general) would make more sense, but we don't have that. So, given a toolbox stocked with a variety of tools that don't fit our needs, we've gone with the least bad way to get done what we needed to get done. Since we've done that, DYK has been running a lot better (i.e. not in a state of perpetual crisis). If the cost of fixing DYK was that WP:PERM occasionally has to handle requests that it's not really set up for, I'm happy with that. If somebody wants to do the legwork to get a new DYK-specific permission created, I'd be happy with that too. [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 12:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)