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== Template-protected edit request on 18 June 2025: uw-delete series ==
 
{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-delete4im|answered=y}}
Add link to [[WP:Content removal]] on {{tl|Uw-delete4im}}:
 
{{stringdiff|remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia|[[WP:Content removal|remove or blank page contents or templates]] from Wikipedia}}
 
Same for all the other uw-delete templates:
 
{{tl|uw-delete4}}
 
{{stringdiff|remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]|[[WP:Content removal|remove or blank page content or templates]] from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]}}
 
{{tl|uw-delete3}}
 
{{stringdiff|blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation|[[WP:Content removal|blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials]] from Wikipedia without adequate explanation}}
 
{{tl|uw-delete2}}
 
{{stringdiff|Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]].|Please do not [[WP:Content removal|remove content or templates]] from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]].}}
 
{{tl|uw-delete1}} already has this link.
 
— [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 21:22, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 00:26, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
::Oh, I thought this would be totally uncontroversial since it's just adding a link and {{tl|uw-delete1}} already includes it. No? — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 00:41, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I think there may be an argument that editors receiving beyond a Level 1 warning for this shouldn't need a link of this nature. It's arguably linking an easily understandable phrase. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 19:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
::::{{tqbm|linking an easily understandable phrase}} My rationale for linking it isn't "this could be misunderstood", it's "we have a page that provides more details about this". — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 00:34, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::{{tqbm|editors receiving beyond a Level 1 warning for this shouldn't need a link of this nature.}} Note that {{tl|Uw-delete4im}} is an "only warning" so editors wouldn't have received a level 1 warning. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 00:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure why anyone would be delivering an "only warning" if an editor hadn't been warned about the same behavior in the past. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 03:27, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::An "{{em|only}} warning" means they only get one warning. Are you thinking of a {{em|final}} warning?
::::::If it helps, I issued an only warning on the 18th because a user out of the blue removed a large chunk of the article [[Tuvan throat singing]], marked it as "minor", didn't write adequate edit summaries, and seemed to be specifically erasing the contributions of Mongolians.
::::::— [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 12:50, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm not. I don't think editors typically issue only warnings to editors who have never received warnings previously, unless whatever they did to merit the warning is so incredibly blatant and unambiguous that it's simply impossible to believe the editor didn't know it would be considered problematic.
:::::::In the case you described, if they had no prior warnings on their Talk page, I'd probably still give them a level 3 or 4 for a first-time offense. Either one is significant enough to result in a block if they continue their behavior. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 15:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::::OK, I see. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 17:38, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:{{done}} Consensus to me is not obvious here, but I'm honestly not really convinced about not adding this link based on it possibly being the case a user has gotten the 1st version. I regularly issue first-time warnings between 1 and 4 and I think it's fair to provide editors (GF or BF) the opportunity to understand what they're doing in our context. Boldly added. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 22:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
 
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