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===Judaism subtypes===

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Now at 900ish, this seems to be due to: a) massive double-stubbing with synagogue-stub (which unless I'm missing something, would seem to be profoundly redundant), and the creation of large numbers of articles like [[5881 (Hebrew year)]] (that's 2120-2121 in Gregorian money). If the latter aren't going to be deleted or merged, as would otherwise seem sensible, perhaps we should consider a {{cl|Hebrew year stubs}}. (The former I take it we should just de-double-stub). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 22:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

*Hopefully the new {{tl|Chabad-stub}} will reduce the load a little (does this cover Hasidic dynasties?), as would removing the extra stub from the synagogue stubs and moving the -bio- and -org- stubs into their correct subcategories. A very rough estimate based on one column of {{cl|Judaism stubs}} suggests that would remove about 25% of the stubs. Over 200 year articles do exist, though, so {{cl|Hebrew year stubs}} sounds like a very good idea. Hopefully between th the sorting and year subcat the main {{cl|Judaism stubs}} can be reduced to about 500 stubs. A {{tl|Judaism-school-stub}} might also be worth considering, by the looks of it. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 23:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

**There's already an upmerged {{tl|Yeshiva-stub}}, though if I understand the intended scope correctly, it doesn't cover all Jewish schools (i.e., not "day schools"). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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===fungus subtypes===

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*{{cl|Basidiomycetes stubs}} 148

*{{cl|Ascomycetes stubs}} 97

Oversized parent. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 21:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 02:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support.''' [[User:Million Moments|Million_Moments]] 08:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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===Austria-geo sub-types===

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Parent's now onto its sixth page. A split by state seems straightforward, with five immediately viable:

*{{cl|Lower Austria geography stubs}} 436

*{{cl|Burgenland geography stubs}} 155

*{{cl|Carinthia geography stubs}} 142

*{{cl|Styria geography stubs}} 68

*{{cl|Tyrol geography stubs}} 61

I suggest templates only for Upper Austria (42), Vorarlberg (39), Salzburg state (37) and Vienna (11), though I wouldn't be surprised if three of those were viable with further sorting of the uncatted rump. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 21:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support'''. Is that all the states? If not, I'd also support templates for any others. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 23:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

**That's all. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 02:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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===Anime and manga -- do-over===

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We've been around this one before, but hopefully we might get a bit more traction this time. Parent is of course enormous. I hope I'm on solid ground with at least the first one, as it was [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Archive_14#Mangaka_stub|already suggested]] at the corresponding WPJ (at which I'm about to drop a note about this). I wonder if a still broader {{cl|anime and manga biography stubs}} would also be handy.

#{{cl|Manga artist stubs}} 186

#{{cl|Anime OVA stubs}} 139

#{{cl|Anime film stubs}} 97

#{{cl|Science fiction anime stubs}} 144

#{{cl|Shōjo stubs}} 108

#{{cl|Mecha anime stubs}} 76

#{{cl|Fantasy anime stubs}} 71

As to the others, I'm easy either way on whether it makes more sense to split by medium, or by genre.

*'''Support''' {{cl|Manga artist stubs}}, '''Oppose''' all other as it give [[WP:ANIME]] too many stubs to juggle. Genre stubs are a particularly bad idea as most anime and manga belong to multiple genres and choosing the best stub won't be easy and a constant source of greif. --'''[[User:TheFarix|Farix]]''' ([[User talk:TheFarix|Talk]]) 19:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

*I numbered them for easier reference. I support all but {{cl|Shōjo stubs}}. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="green">日本穣</font>]]^{[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">Talk</font>]] <font color="darkblue">to</font> [[WP:JA|Nihon]][[WP:MOS-JA|<font color="darkgreen">joe</font>]]</small>} 19:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support''' {{cl|Manga artist stubs}}, as most manga artist articles are stubs. Glad you took it up, I never got around [[User:Ninja_neko/Mangaka_stubs|listing all eligible articles]] (there are so many!). Not sure about the other cats though, as this would mean you could apply multiple stub cats on one article (a mecha-sci fi-fantasy OVA for instance), it could get confusing. [[User:Ninja neko|Ninja neko]] 08:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

**I imagine we'd (at most) want to do either the form/medium axis, or the genre axis, but not both. Since the "series" are in theory already split (that is, the type exists, but isn't significantly sorted to), and since it would presumably lead to less overlap, maybe the former makes more sense. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 12:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

*'''Support''' {{cl|Manga artist stubs}}, As for OVA and films, I have opposed a stub type for anime-series before because its purpose is far outweighed by the maintenance needed to separate them from other anime/mange stub types. Basically all of what Farix said I agree with. --[[User:Squilibob|Squilibob]] 07:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

**Given the ever-increasing size of the parent stub type, can someone explain to me exactly what "maintaining" of this the anime WPJ is doing at present? From a stub-sorting point of view, it's not acceptable for this just to grow endlessly, and I can't believe it's very useful for anyone else (supposedly) working on these, either, at least as regards the chances of these articles ever being "unstubbed". Is the project going to agree to ''any'' way of sorting the remainder of these? (Note "agree to", not "actually do".) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 13:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

::*'''Comment''': There are [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Anime and manga articles by quality statistics|1847 stub]] anime and manga articles. If you split OVAs and films off then that would removed only 236 of the 1847 still leaving over 1600 stubs left in the one category, ''but'' some OVAs have film adaptions and vice versa. And science fiction/mecha/fantasy would have even more overlap. --[[User:Squilibob|Squilibob]] 05:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

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