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::Congratulation ! This clean up was visible 3 hours and 31 minutes on the main pages, and many readers have probably notice the change ;). Such visible actions are especially welcome !
::But I'm a bit worry : How many wikigraphists are also admin on commons ?? We need 3 at least... Yug 05:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
=={{Template:Request Title|title=SVG + GIF(!) = SVG|done=true}}==
<center><gallery>
Image:US_Secession_map_1865.svg|SVG to work from (?)
Image:Freeandslavestates.gif|To convert from
Image:Slave and Free States before the American Civil War.svg|How's this?
Image:Slave and Free States before the American Civil War 2.svg|Though this might be too complex for our purposes.
</gallery></center>
'''Articles:''' [[Slave state]] and [[Free state (USA)]]
'''Request:''' Could someone take the currently detailed breakdown of states in the war and create a simplified version of it based on the GIF so we can replace the GIF with an SVG? Basically all that's needed are the slave states (Confederate + Border), free states (Union), and territories. [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 01:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
'''Opinion:'''
How's this? [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 22:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:Could you re-add the border states? I'm thinking of a caption along the lines of "Blue = free, red = slave. The four [color] states were slave states but did not join the Confederacy in the war. Kansas (teal) was admitted as a free state just prior to the war and following the pitched battle known as [[Bleeding Kansas]]", or words to that effect (Obviously not as terse). [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 13:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
::I've done it, but the text won't show? Also, technically, I guess Virginia and West Virginia should be one state... [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 16:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:::That's mediaWiki. Try Text/Convert to Text, or Path/Convert to Path in Inkscape. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 16:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Right. Just to check, though: Should Nevada be one of the states? [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 17:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since this is pre-Civil War stuff, I'm taking the listed start date of the war as the cutoff here. So: Nevada was a territory and so has no distinction from the rest. West Virginia is a quandary, since it was part of Virginia but a very unwilling one once the war broke out. Here's a thought: Merge the two Virginias and change the border states back to red, then the caption can just explain why Kansas was so strange and link to [[Border states]], which would then explain the divisions as they ended up during the war. [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 15:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
What still needs to be done here? --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 06:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Rectify the ill-displaying color legend in [[:Image:Slave and Free States before the American Civil War 2.svg]]? [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 03:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
::Like DTR said, it's because Media Wiki doesn't support flowed text (text that provides a bit more formatting) therefore you have to convert it to path, or the more size efficient one, convert it to normal text. I have done so and so unless anything else needs to be done, this case is closed. :-) <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] <sup>[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]</sup></span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">⚔</span> 18:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Anything's better then a GIF, so OK. [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 15:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
=={{Template:Request Title|title=Reflections from a painting|done=true}}==
<gallery>
Image:John Brown Painting.JPG| {{puic|1=Image:John Brown Painting.JPG|log=2007 October 2}}
</gallery>
'''Used in:''' [[Bleeding Kansas]], [[John Steuart Curry]]
'''Request:''' Anything that can be done about that horrible reflection? [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 23:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist's Opinion:'''
:I'd be amazed if anyone can fix that short of re-doing the painting. Underexposure is usually fixable, because the brightness graph is just attenuated. Overexposure is often impossible to fix, because the values are cropped. It's analogous to a sound recording: If you record something too soft, you can always amplify it; you'll just lose some quality. If you record something too loud, though, it will always be distorted even if you reduce the volume on playback.
:I stand to be corrected, however, if some genius here knows better! --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 07:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
::If the artwork is in public ___domain, we could use [http://www.cs.cornell.edu/nystrom/images/Antietam/pages/page_17.html this]. If it is not, then both are copyrighted. The photo we have is a derivative work of the original. [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 16:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I've just checked, John Steuart Curry (the artist of this painting) died in 1946 (info from [http://encarta.msn.com/media_461535558_1741500823_-1_1/Tragic_Prelude.html here]), that is only 61 years ago, and therefore this image is not in the public ___domain. This painting is, as explained by Chabacan, not free <br> <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] <sup>[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]</sup></span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">⚔</span> 18:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Could freedom of panorama apply? In any case, no skin off my nose: I just saw this image being used and thought it could be better. [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 00:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
It looks as if this one should be marked "done" because it is not PD. Any dissent? --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 06:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
=={{Request Title|title=SVGify two maps|done=true}}==
<center><gallery>
Image:Levant 830.png|1st map
Image:Levant 830.svg|SVG version. Picked colours out with GIMP, cleaned up, traced each section individually in inkscape.
Image:Levant 800.png|2nd map
Image:Levant 800.svg|Cleaned up with the GIMP, then traced with Inkscape, then removed redundant paths.
</gallery></center>
'''Article(s):''' Several articles, [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?w=_100000&i=Image:Levant_830.png#end Check usage]. For example: [[History of ancient Israel and Judah]]
'''Request:''' -- Conversion to SVG. [[User:213.186.238.211|213.186.238.211]] 18:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' I can pick this one up over the weekend if nobody attacks it sooner. aliasd'''·'''[[User:aliasd|U]]'''·'''[[User_talk:aliasd|T]] 14:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm working on the second map. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 08:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::OK, done second map. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 10:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:OK, now I'll do the first map. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 10:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Done the outline and the red dots for the cities. Still needs text and scale indicator. Someone else can take over now. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 12:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:IMHO, other (smoother) colors would be better. --[[User:QWerk.fi|QWerk.fi]] 14:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Probably true, but I was just copying the maps to SVG. Re-colouring is quick and easy in SVG, so if you want to change the colours around, go ahead. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 14:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to put the text on the first map now. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 14:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 15:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
=={{Request Title|title=Clean up SVG|done=true}}==
<center><gallery>
Image:ATA Plug.svg|Redone
</gallery></center>
'''Articles:''' [[AT Attachment]]
'''Request:''' Check the numbers, they look very fuzzy and pixelated when zoomed in; very unSVGlike. [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 17:39, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
'''Opinion:'''
I suspect another automatic tracing, i've redone it. Looking Good ? <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] <sup>[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]</sup></span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">⚔</span> 18:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yes! [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 03:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
== {{Request Title|title=Various state quarters|done=true}} ==
<center><gallery>
Image:Montana quarter, reverse side, 2007.png|Montana<br>(transparency)
Image:2007 ID Proof Rev.jpg|Idaho<br>(convert to png and transparency)
Image:2007 WY Proof Rev.jpg|Wyoming<br>(convert to png and transparency)
Image:2007 UT Proof Rev.jpg|Utah<br>(convert to png and transparency)
</gallery></center><br>
<center><gallery>
Image:Montana quarter, reverse side, 2007.png|Montana<br>Transparent
Image:2007 ID Proof Rev.png|Idaho<br>Transparent
Image:2007 WY Proof Rev.png|Wyoming<br>Transparent
Image:2007 UT Proof Rev.png|Utah<br>Transparent
</gallery></center>
'''Article(s): [[50 State Quarters]]'''
'''Request:''' Is it possible to improve these images to be as per the other quarter images on the article? Regards - '''[[User:Anecdote|Ανέκδοτο]]''' <em style="font-size:10px;">03:47, 16 October 2007 ([[UTC]])</em>
'''Graphist opinion:'''
<s>:No problem, I'm on it. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 06:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:Sorry, no, I didn't realise how big the files were. My company monitors internet traffic volume, and I'm already a bit high for the month... --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 06:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Done, everything okay ? <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] <sup>[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]</sup></span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">⚔</span> 16:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Everything looks good, awesome job! Regards, '''[[User:Anecdote|Ανέκδοτο]]''' <em style="font-size:10px;">21:35, 16 October 2007 ([[UTC]])</em>
::::Pity [[JNG]] doesn't have more support, these would be ideal candidates. But, to lessen the PNG file sizes a bit, I've converted them to greyscale - since there wasn't any significant colour information - and optimised the results with [[PNGOUT]]. [[User:CountingPine|CountingPine]] 17:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
== {{Request Title|title=Harvey Milk Plaza inscription|done=true}} ==
<center><gallery>
Image:Harvey milk plaza.JPG|improved?
</gallery></center>
'''Article(s): [[Harvey Milk]]'''
'''Request:''' Hi, is it possible to improve image quality, remove graffiti, trim some excess framing and boost contrast so quote and entire image is more readable? - [[User talk:Benjiboi|Benjiboi]] 23:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
:That's a pretty low-quality image. It almost looks as if it had been converted to [[GIF]] format and back. Assuming you took this with a digital camera, is there any chance you could provide us with the original image file straight from the camera? —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 08:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hehe, I just recently moaned on benjiboi's talk page about a 1MB photo direct from a digital camera which he had uploaded, saying that a bit of JPEG compression would reduce the size to 250KB with no reduction in image quality. But yes, this image is low quality, and a better picture would give a better chance of success. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 09:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I had a go at it, how is it ? <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] <sup>[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]</sup></span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">⚔</span> 18:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually I didn't take either of those images in question (small slap on wrist) but simply trying to improve images others have shared as they do help the articles. And yes, the image is much better, readable and all that, thank you! [[User talk:Benjiboi|Benjiboi]] 23:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, right, sorry. I didn't notice you weren't the uploader. I've left a note on [[User talk:Baranxtu#Harvey Milk Plaza image|Baranxtu's talk page]]. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 06:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Unfortunately, neither my then nor my current equipment ("traditional" and also cheap camera and, uh, not-so-good scanner) allow me to put up a higher quality version of this picture. I could try and see if I can find the original photo to provide an unresized version for editing, though; resizing it back then did not do any good for it, I agree. [[User:Baranxtu|Baranxtu]] 07:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Also Slashme I'm glad you did mention that's what you were referring to as I totally didn't understand it then but now get it a bit more. I don't as of yet have a digital camera but work with images from others on a regular basis in various capacities so appreciate that insight. [[User talk:Benjiboi|Benjiboi]] 23:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
=={{Request Title|title=World Scout Committee|done=true}}==
<center><gallery>
Image:Worldcrest1957.jpg
Image:Worldcrest1957sepia.jpg
Image:Worldcrest1957purplesmall.jpg|something akin to this
Image:WOSMemblemgrp.png|but with the depth of _this_ purple, used in [[WOSM]] and [[World Crest]]
Image:Worldcrest1957purple.png|Ilmari's purple version, now we just need svg, please help
Image:World Crest 1957.svg
Image:World Crest 1957 purple.svg
</gallery></center>
'''Article(s):''' [[World Scout Committee]]
'''Request:''' For the image, it should really be in the proportions of the sepia badge, but with the coloration scheme of the purple one. -- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 01:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
:You mean something like [http://www.scout.org/en/information_events/media_centre/brand_design/our_brand__1/graphic_design this one here]? —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 08:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::That's the modern one and doesn't have the geographic information around it, but the color scheme is right, white fleur-de-lis on purple. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 03:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, how about [http://vyznev.net/misc/Worldcrest1957purple.png this]? I took the red channel from the sepia version, adjusted levels slightly to clean up the background and recolored it to white on purple like in the modern one. If that's what you want, feel free to upload it. (I've left it off-wiki so that ''you'' get to deal with all the fun and wacky issues that come with uploading non-free images.) —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 06:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:That is it, except can it be made round without the square purple background, and can it be made svg so scalable? It's great, thank you for your hard work! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 12:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::I've made the outside transparent, is that how you wanted it? Making an SVG out of that file would take some work, mainly due to the low resolution, and I'm not really convinced it's worth it. Maybe someone else may want to do it. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 13:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Ilmari, you've got it! Would someone else please convert this to scalable svg? I will be happy to deal with all the fun and wacky issues that come with uploading non-free images. :) It will, by the way, fall under the same copyright rules as the original lavender version. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 18:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:I cannot get it to upload. If you will upload it, I will source and credit it properly. Thanks! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 18:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:Got it, now just need svg. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 22:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::I created an svg from the first [[:Image:Worldcrest1957.jpg]], I can do [[:Image:Worldcrest1957purple.png]] as well, since the real hard part is the text in the circle. I won't take too much time. -- [[User:Kaboom88|Kaboom88]] 00:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Text on [[:Image:World Crest 1957 purple.svg]] was much easier because I had correct font loaded already. Keep which ever file you want. -- [[User:Kaboom88|Kaboom88]] 02:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Perfect, the last one is it, thank you so much, this one is complete! That was easy! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 03:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
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