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::Ec, why are you claiming [[February 11]] is in accordance with ISO 8601? That's a wilful bald-faced deceptive rhetorical lie and you know it ;) Do you want support for negative years as well? -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 07:50, Nov 13, 2003 (UTC)
:::I would go along with that.
:::If I still need to set up redirects to accomplish that end I would be glad to set them all up, instead of just those already there which have been on an as needed basis. [[User:Eclecticology|<font size=+1>☮</font> Eclecticology]] 08:15, 2003 Nov 13 (UTC)
::Ec, why are you claiming [[February 11]] is in accordance with ISO 8601? That's a wilful bald-faced deceptive rhetorical lie and you know it ;) Do you want support for negative years as well? -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 07:50, Nov 13, 2003 (UTC)
:::I haven't really said anything about dates without the year accept that I would go along with the original author's style. I apologize if my failure to address that left such an impression. In due course, I would add a sentence to the article to the effect that ISO 8601 only applies when the full date is used, or when it's only Year-Month.
:::I detect a hint of mixed sarcasm and thoroughness in your reference to negative years. ;) That concept had crossed my mind, but I dismissed it as not particularly immediate. To be consistent, I would answer yes. I've never been bothered by the use of "BC" instead of "BCE", but it would address the complaints of those who object to the Christian connotations. [[User:Eclecticology|<font size=+1>☮</font> Eclecticology]] 08:15, 2003 Nov 13 (UTC)
I don't see how ISO 8601 is even remotely relevant, and would object to it being used at all, and would change any usage of it. ISO 8601 specifies a format for computer-readable dates, not human-readable dates. It is something used by CS and Engineering people, not encyclopedia writers. You will note that no major manual of style even knows of the ''existence'' of ISO 8601, let alone recommends its use. In short, it is wholly unsuitable to an encyclopedia. To see just how uninterested in human readability ISO 8601 is, their allowed encodings for the date/time "13:10:30 on February 14, 1993" are "19930214T131030" or "1993-02-14T13:10:30" (quoted directly from the standard). This is obviously ridiculous for use in written text, which is why people who write encyclopedias don't refer to ISO documents. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 08:01, Nov 13, 2003 (UTC)
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