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::There are several welcome template that fit the purpose: See [[:Template:Welc-anon]], [[:Template:AnonymousWelcome]], and [[:Template:Welcome-anon-vandal]]. Hope that helps. --[[User:Hdt83|<font color="336611" ><b><i>Hdt<font color="blue" >83</font></i></b></font>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|^{<font color="brown" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font>}]] 02:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Thank you both very much. [[User:Ekantik|Ekantik]] ^{[[User talk:Ekantik|talk]]} 03:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

== {{tl|uw-balkans}} ==

guys, this is something I forgot to bring here the other week but just remembered, so better late than never. [[User|Sandstein]] added the above warning to the main page after [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia]], this was done with good intention though I believe this warning should have greater concensus before going live (my comments and reasoning are in the blocks and logs section of the ArbReq). Thoughts please? ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 15:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC) (signed later oops)

:I say that placing such a template on the UTM page is a bad idea. The tone of the message is very biting to me and unknowing newbies may be extremely offended by this message. Such a warning on the UTM page may also encourage users who are in a dispute relating to the subject to place these templates on users' talk pages without thought or to get back at them. I also concur with your point on this template leading to things like {{uw-ireland}}, {{uw-israel-palestine}} etc.. Not every editor involved in editing the related Balans pages needs this rude message on their talk page and those that do should have a more personal message rather than a template. So to sum up my point, the template is over-excessive and not needed. --[[User:Hdt83|<font color="336611" ><b><i>Hdt<font color="blue" >83</font></i></b></font>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|^{<font color="brown" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font>}]] 04:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think the whole idea of this preemptive warning is contrary to [[WP:BITE]], [[WP:AGF]], and [[WP:CIVIL]]. More in line with policy, IMO, would be to give the warning to editors who are beginning to engage in behaviors that would result in these sanctions. Yes, this means they might get away with slightly more disruption, but the alternative is worse. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 02:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

:It's definitely not suited for UTM. And personally I think templating is a very bad idea here. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] ^{[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]} 10:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== uw-notcensored3 ==

Someone has gone an [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 December 15#Template:Uw-notcensored3|nominated uw-notcensored3 and uw-notcensored4 for deletion without discussion]]. The point regarding softening the wording is valid; I suggest changing {{tl|uw-notcensored3}} to <blockquote>{{{icon|[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] }}}Please stop. Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not censored|not censored]]. If you continue to make changes which have the effect of censoring an article{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, such as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-notcensored3 --></blockquote> and changing {{tl|uw-notcensored4}} to redirect to {{tl|uw-delete4}} rather than {{tl|uw-vandalism4}}. Any thoughts? [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 17:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:Have replied on the TfD, cheers for bring this to our attention. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 10:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Template:uw-test2]] ==

This template currently states "Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia articles even if your ultimate intention is to fix them". Should we ''really'' be discouraging second-time low-level offenders (i.e. test2 rather than vand2) from attempting to fix articles, like this wording suggests? Surely attempting to fix an article is not even covered by what we would normally consider as "test edits"? And if I'm merely misunderstanding the wording, and it's actually saying they should not be attempting to fix ''their own test edits'' (in which case it could be made clearer perhaps), then why should we be discouraging users reverting themselves?<br />

I feel this template perhaps needs a bit of rewording. --[[User:Dreaded Walrus|Dreaded Walrus]] ^{[[User talk:Dreaded Walrus|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Dreaded Walrus|c]]} 05:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:The wording of the template was meant that the vandals should not make test edits even if they are going to remove the test edits they made afterwards. The wording may be slightly confusing and if someone comes up with a better way to word this sentence them I'm all for it. --[[User:Hdt83|<font color="336611" ><b><i>Hdt<font color="blue" >83</font></i></b></font>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|^{<font color="brown" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font>}]] 06:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Blog template ==

Is there a template to use or noticeboard to report a user using their userpage as a sport's blog? [[User:Mbisanz|Mbisanz]] ([[User talk:Mbisanz|talk]]) 05:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:There are only templates for the more common problems, and even then they aren't a substitute for a good ol' personal message. All the templates are listed on the project page. Cheers ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 08:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)