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*This is basically an opening attempt to organize all Wikiprojects. The points need not be belabored. This has already been done ''de facto'' by/at [[:Category:WikiProjects]] and there is no need to reinvent the wheel. From experience, Wikiprojects that are dormant or inactive for about a year are tagged as such with the {{tl|historical}} template and categorized at [[:Category:Inactive WikiProjects]]. Deleting Wikiprojects entirely is too radical and flies in the face of [[WP:NOT#PAPER]] as well, as are many of the concerns above. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] ([[User talk:IZAK|talk]]) 18:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:Responses: The editor above appears to completely and utterly miss the central point of the essay, and seems to fairly explicitly violate AGF in the process as well. He also displays a rather serious lack of knowledge of the subject of WikiProjects. Having been involved in the preparing the lists of WikiProjects, and at least trying to deal with the issues of banners, I am aware that similar points have been discussed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject reform]]. Evidently, he is completely unfamiliar with that page, as much of the content which he has decried is basically at least thematically related to that one. Also, I note once again that certain comments which I had added which related specifically to religion, one of the few areas that editor seems interested in, were pointedly removed. I believe the editor in question has once again displayed a certain tendency toward proprietorship which in and of itself flies in the face of wikipedia guidelines. I would appreciate rationsl discussion of the points made, however, rather than presumptuous aspersions on the motivations of others which have no particular basis in the text itself, which is unfortunately what the comment above reads like. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 18:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
*The casual reader would not suspect that this essay was written by Wikipedia's most prolific setter-up of projects, and one of its most busy banner-clutters! This attempt to set out what projects '''ought''' to exist and be busy is completely pointless. In practice the least essential projects are often, indeed usually, the busiest and most organised. That is the Wikipedia way. Certainly projects where nothing happens, which includes most of those set up by the writer, should be closed down. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 18:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:*Nor would the casual reader know that both of the above editors are individuals who have recently attempted to have this editor blocked, without just cause, as blocks can only be handed out to prevent further actions, not in retaliation of previous ones. Having said that, I honestly see neither comment above actually directly addresses the points made, but rather cast not necessarily founded aspersions on the motivation of the writer. How sad. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 18:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
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