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::That's what I imagined. But then I felt a bit intimidated by that particular editor's response when I asked him about this. To be frank, I have the impression that he tries to avoid typing wherever possible and that he doesn't mind if it comes across as uncivil. I will think about the language of the template; perhaps there is a way to make it harder to abuse it in this way. Cheers. --[[User:Hans Adler|Hans Adler]] ([[User talk:Hans Adler|talk]]) 22:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Archiving talkpage of [[Template talk:Test-self]] ==

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I thought we decided not to use {{tl|qif}} on test templates? -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 00:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

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::*"If you would like to experiment again, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]."

::-- <font color="#000080">Mufka</font> [[User:Mufka|^(u)]] [[User talk:Mufka|^(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Mufka|^(c)]] 12:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

== Manual of Style warning templates ==

When used with an article parameter, these templates currently read something along the lines of the following:

:Using different styles throughout the encyclopedia, as you did to [[:Article]], makes it harder to read.

I've gone through and changed these instances to read ''"in [[:Article]]"'' rather than ''"to [[:Article]]"''; one uses styles ''in'' articles, not ''to'' articles. If anyone has any objections, please discuss and/or revert as necessary. <font color="#FF0000">[[User:Haza-w|'''haz''']]</font> <font size="1">([[User_talk:Haza-w|talk]])</font> 15:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== Needed: Plagiarism warnings ==

I just reverted some instances of plagiarism of books found on Google books, and I couldn't find an appropriate warning to issue to the user. I used a vandalism warning with a note I added about plagiarism.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:12.170.123.253&curid=15764029&diff=191587663&oldid=191579919] It would be nice if a series of warning templates existed to warn users that we shouldn't copy the works of others in Wikipedia.

In a similar vein, a series of copyvio warnings would also be useful. The plagriarism warnings would be used in cases of no copyright violation (like copying from Google books, which aren't copyrighted). =[[User:Axlq|Axlq]] ([[User talk:Axlq|talk]]) 05:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

:For most cases the {{tl|uw-copyright}} meet the requirements, the series of warnings (copyvio's) were deleted quite sometime ago, as there is no grey area. You are either adding copyrighted material to wikipedia or not, hence there is a single issue warning and the material is instantly removed.

:As I understand it though, if the works fall under [[free content]] (personally not sure google books do) then there is no problems with its inclusion within wikipedia, and what is then be objected to is the actual wording of the edits themselves making it a content dispute. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 08:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

::I generally agree with Khukri. The most serious issue for WP is copyright violation, and we have a strong warning for that. For our purposes, most instances of plagiarism can be treated the same as copyright violation. If the content is taken from a google (or other) book that is in the public ___domain, that is legally OK, though it is intellectually dishonest and violates [[WP:V]]. However, our articles are dynamic so that the plagiarised content should eventually be sufficiently changed or removed.--<span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 20:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== Rewrite suggestion ==

I have this suggestion to rewrite the level one vandalism warning to make it sound more official:

This is a level-one warning. Please be more concerned about you use of the “save this page” button. Your recent page-blanking, graffiti, saucy remark, or etc, shown on this diff page did not seem to improve the article. Be advised that to respect our readers it’s possible for individual privileges to use the “edit this page” tab to be turned off, or blocked. Curiosity based edits can be done on official test pages called sandboxes. This has been a level-one warning.

The above wording, I think, would make the warning sound like a serious warning. --[[User talk:Chuck Marean|Chuck Marean]] 19:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

:Deja vu anyone? ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 19:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

::Indeed. --[[User:ZimZalaBim|<font color="black">Zim</font><font color="darkgreen">'''Zala'''</font><font color="black">Bim</font>]] ^{<font color="black">[[User talk:ZimZalaBim|talk]]</font>} 21:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

:I don't see how that's more serious or official than the present template; it just appears to be more verbose. [[User:Nufy8|Nufy8]] ([[User talk:Nufy8|talk]]) 19:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)