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:You can start with a {{tl|uw-d1}} as a good faith, then work up to {{tl|uw-d3}}. After that for the final warning, if they do not engage in discussion, you say it as you see it which is vandalism {{tl|uw-v4}}. The deletion templates are a generic to cover all types of problems so you could use something like ''<nowiki>{{subst:uw-d1|image:name.jpg|This is concerning your recent removal of the no source tag. Please discuss this issue and do not remove the tag until resolved. Thank you}}</nowiki>''. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 12:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== trolling ==

is there in existence a template message to address trolling? if so, can you tell me? if not, can someone create one? [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] ([[User talk:Kingturtle|talk]]) 12:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:It depends on the exact circumstance, but we tend to class any edits detrimental to the project as vandalism, i.e {{tl|uw-v1}} -> {{tl|uw-v4}}. If you can give us more details we can tell you which template to use and how to word it accordingly. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 12:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::Specifically, I wanted to respond to [[User:195.188.183.89]] about these edits: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dawat-e-Islami&diff=prev&oldid=194676607],

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dawat-e-Islami&diff=prev&oldid=194676882],

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dawat-e-Islami&diff=prev&oldid=194679014]. I thought a trolling message would be useful here. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] ([[User talk:Kingturtle|talk]]) 13:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Sorry to say this, but it's content dispute and not really the realm of warning templates. You may want to read here [[WP:DISPUTE]] for some pointers. I would however consider the legal threat side of things quite seriously read [[WP:NLT|here]] and consider taking it to [[WP:ANI]], unfortunately I'm off now for a few hours, so would likely leave it hanging. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 14:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Revert means return ==

My version of this template, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-vandalism1&oldid=194869678], uses the word revert correctly. My version sounds like a warning against vandalism, and it encourages people to read. -- [[User talk:Chuck Marean|Chuck Marean]] 19:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:Quote: "Level 1 – Assumes good faith. Generally includes 'Welcome to Wikipedia' or some variant."

:Your version very quickly gets into "the response to [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|malicious mischief]] is [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocking]] or [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|banning]] the vandal." It reads like a indirect threat to block, which I think is somewhat strong for a message which assumes good faith. If you want a template that reads more like a "warning against vandalism", use one of the higher level templates. --[[User talk:Charles Sturm|Sturm]] 19:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::Chuck, you're aware that there are [[Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace#Warnings and notices|multiple levels of warnings]], right? This level 1 warning is appropriately worded to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] and not [[WP:BITE|bite any new editors who simply made a mistake]]. --[[User:ZimZalaBim|<font color="black">Zim</font><font color="darkgreen">'''Zala'''</font><font color="black">Bim</font>]] ^{<font color="black">[[User talk:ZimZalaBim|talk]]</font>} 20:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:Your points have been answered previously and you do not wish to engage in discussion. Re-raising the same old points will be given due attention they deserve. ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 20:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::For a level 1, that sounds rather harsh and scary, especially to new users who don't know levels 2, 3, and 4 exist. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' ^{[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]} 20:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)