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"is it fair to include them?" That is for you all to decide. I will be happy if the issues are at least given real consideration.
[[User:RealWorldExperience|RealWorldExperience]] ([[User talk:RealWorldExperience|talk]]) 21:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
1. Unsigned 32bit Integer (DWORD) calculations are executed in the FPU - unlike mainstream (Microsoft et al) compilers - causing unexpected results
.a) Unsourced.
.b) Some calculations are performed in the FPU, just as in other compilers.
.c) It does not cause unexpected results. The claim is unsourced and untrue.
.d) BASIC is a mainstream compiler. There are more BASIC programmers than C programmers.
2. 64bit signed (QUAD) integer values are returned in st(0) of the FPU (unlike C that returns quads using the EDX:EAX registers) once again, an unexpected result.
.a) Unsourced.
.b) PowerBASIC is a BASIC compiler, not a C compiler. They use different calling conventions by design. This is documented elsewhere on Wikipedia.
3. Powerbasic "support" forums require the use of your full real name
.a) While this is true, you should note that all references to the PowerBASIC Forums were removed from the PowerBASIC article by a Wikipedia Admin. The pertinence of this minor item would therefore be quite a "stretch".
4. The "support" forums are in fact "user to user" forums. Company support must be paid for.
.a) This is one more fabrication. "Real World Experience" knows it is false, because he is the one who asked the original question on the PowerBASIC Forums. Our employees are experts on the PowerBASIC compiler. '''Our employees provide absolutely free technical support for questions about how to use the PowerBASIC compiler.''' But "Real World Experience" asked us a question about Microsoft Visual Basic, not PowerBASIC. "Real World Experience" had a program written in Visual Basic, and "Real World Experience" wanted to recreate its functionality in a PowerBASIC program. "Real World Experience" did not understand some of the statements and functions used in Visual Basic, and he wanted us to provide that information, or perhaps even write the PowerBASIC program for him. If our representative knew the quick answer to his Visual Basic problem, he would have certainly shared it. We do that every day. But, we are not Visual Basic experts. In order to answer the questions of "Real World Experience" about Visual Basic, or to write his program for him, we would have to do some fairly lengthy research on that product and his specific problem. That is very clear. It's also very clear that such research and custom programming is well beyond the scope of technical support from any company. Mr. Zale wrote a very polite, businesslike message to explain it fully.
PowerBASIC is a programming tool. It is used by programmers to create an application program. We sell the tool to create a program. We will help you by answering questions about the tool, but we can't create your programs for you, and we can't generally answer technical questions about other programming tools. That would be a lifetime consulting service. If one were to follow the somewhat twisted logic of "Real World Experience", you could:
A- Visit your Sears store and buy a hammer.
B- Expect them to teach you to build a house or build a house for you.
C- Expect them to teach you to use an air-hammer you bought elsewhere.
Of course, then Wikipedia Editors would have to go to the Sears page and:
A- Add an entry that Sears won't build you a house, even if you buy a hammer.
B- Add an entry that Sears won't teach you to use tools bought elsewhere.
C- Then move on to appliances, televisions, etc.
5. "Support" forum threads are targeted and deleted by Powerbasic staff.
.a) Unsourced
.b) Total fabrication.
6. Users have been banned from the "support" forums
.a) Over the past 12 years, a few users have been banned for cause. Wikipedia has banned some users, too. Pertinence?
7. ASM implementation is limited (less than the full set of commands)
.a) Unsourced
8. COM implementation is limited (less than the full functionality)
.a) This is already documented clearly in the PowerBASIC Wikipedia article. It says "COM (component object model) client functions. No claim is made for server functions in the current version of PowerBASIC.
[[User:PowerCoder|PowerCoder]] ([[User talk:PowerCoder|talk]]) 21:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
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