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:I have to agree to some extent with Shenme above whilst we are beginning to say ''"Oi we don't like what you are doing"'' we are still doing it politely. However I can see how it's currently worded could seem a tad 'whiney', though your examples are quite hard and are more along the lines of a lvl4 warning. Make a few suggestions keeping it polite but informing the user of <u>possible</u> repercussions for their actions, and we'll have a look at them. Though what ever change is decided upon it must be across the board. <sup>[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]</sup> 07:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::I'd be happy with anything that doesn't use the "please stop" as a single sentence and possibly that doesn't connect the vandalism to WIkipedia as a whole, this makes it seem like the vandal is doing collateral damage, I think "Please stop vandalizing or you might/could be blocked from editing Wikipedia" or "Please don't vandalize or you run the risk of being blocked from editing Wikipedia". Or, "Please don't vandalize or you might lose editing privileges thank you." <tt>[[user:Dominik92|The Dominator]]</tt><tt><sup>[[user talk:Dominik92|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:contributions/Dominik92|Edits]]</sub></tt> 22:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
== Big problem with one set of warnings. ==
The joke warning, that begins with "Thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia", is basically encouraging more vandalism by congratulating the user for the joke. This should be changed. [[User:MalwareSmarts|MalwareSmarts]] ([[User talk:MalwareSmarts|talk]]) 21:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say it's encouraging the vandalism, but I don't like it either, to me it seems rather condescending and frankly, I don't see the point of this set to even exist, 99% of "joke" edits are bad faith and actually vandalism, I don't think many people go to Wikipedia thinking it's a joke sight and this template is misused IMO, it should only be used if people use a tone that suggests humor rather than people who go to an article and just add nonsense, that's vandalism, not a joke edit. <tt>[[user:Dominik92|The Dominator]]</tt><tt><sup>[[user talk:Dominik92|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:contributions/Dominik92|Edits]]</sub></tt> 22:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
::Originated for the meme of uncyclopedia type edits a couple of years ago. While joking and the creation sometimes mildly humorous articles were a pain in the proverbial, if editors have the ability and intelligence to write long convoluted humorous articles then they could if persuaded maybe help the project. Hence for things like this it was deemed it may not be best way to bring them over to the good side if we instantly call them a vandal. Even though it is vandalism it's not always necessary to reach for the big V templates straight away. If you issue two joke templates and finish with a V4 what harm has it done if it ends in a block anyway, <u>but</u> if the editor start contributing positively to wikipedia, for taking a more tactile approach instead of authoritarian we have a net gain. Some of you may wish to read [[Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism#To_fellow_administrators|this]] discussion at AIV. <sup>[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]</sup> 11:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
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