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In the American context, where Middle Easterners and North Africans are grouped as ''White'' by government agencies, the [[Plebs|plebeian's]] contention of excluding these Caucasoid groups of North Africa and the Middle East from the "White" label is based largely on the argument that there is a significant Black sub-Saharan component in much of their populations; due to the importation of Black slaves, by Arab slave traders across the Sahara desert, with whom they mixed. It is undeniable that many Arabs in [[North Africa]] ([[Morocco]], [[Algeria]], [[Egypt]], etc) and the [[Arabian Peninsula]] ([[Saudi Arabia]], [[Yemen]], [[Oman]], etc.) have enough black African ancestry or are dark enough - at times being as dark complexioned as some African Americans - to be considered "Black" by popular US standards. However, at least for the Arabs of the [[Levant]] ([[Syria]], [[Lebanon]], [[Palestine]], [[Jordan]], etc.), though a good proportion can be as dark as Arabs from North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, just as many are lighter-complexioned by comparison, comparable to Southern Europeans, and can be more closely related to Persians – and vice versa – due to both the ancient slave trade and the wars that involved Macedonian, Byzantine, Roman, Holy Roman, Persian and other empires.

Additionally, the ''popular'' definition of White in the [[United States]] often excludes all [[Hispanic]]s, more so those from the [[Americas]] (even if of unmixed European descent, or of European phenotype with distant non-European admixture) and at times also questioning the ''whiteness'' of those from [[Spain]]. Of the countries of [[Latin America]], those that it can be said are composed of an overwhelmingly European population are [[Argentina]] and [[Uruguay]]. [[Chile]] and [[Costa Rica]] are also quite "European", and posses [[mestizo]] majorities infrom which it is not uncommon for the European element oftento dominatespredominate heavily over the Amerindian, thoughone (''See also: [[Castizo]]''); of those, very few would acknowledge thatthe admixture and would simply identify as "''White''". Countries such as [[Guatemala]], [[Bolivia]], [[Peru]], on the other hand, posses [[Native American|Amerindian]] majorities, and although they also harbour large mestizo minorities, these are on average much morethe Amerindian thanelement predominates over the European one. Furthermore, [[Guyana]] and [[Surinam]] have significant [[South Asia]]n populations. Also, [[Haiti]] and the [[Dominican Republic]] are composed mainly of people of African or mixed African descent.

Bestowing the "non-White" label upon ethnic European peoples of [[Southern European]], [[Eastern European]] (Slavic) and [[Ashkenazi]] (Northern/Eastern European Jewish) descent, is a serious point taken in an ideology that is highly espoused by many White separatists. This occurs even within countries such as [[Italy]], where northern Italians have been accused of possessing racially motivated separatist sentiments stemming from allegedly irreconcilable differences with [[Southern Italy|Southern Italians]]. Polls suggest that most Italians see this as a bizarre and confusing attitude and reject any 'racial difference' between the North and South of Italy.