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:Probably one of the biggest services this project could do for Wikipedia would be a good survey of the academic literature on the definition of fascism.
:It also may be that the project name is going to make this all much more contentious than it needs to be. The fact is, "fascism" nowadays is almost always used as a pejorative. Unless the scope of this project largely ''ends'' with World War II, the name is going to cause more difficulty than not. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 02:08, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
::My personal primary area of interest ends with 1945 anyway; "Neo"-fascism, especially post-WWII white supremacist groups (another task -- weed out the actual Neo-Nazis from the groups like, Posse Comitatus), can easily be spun off into a subproject, although fascisms arising post-WWII in nonbelligerents (e.g. Argentina, Panama, Guatemala) and inheritor parties like [[Alleanza Nationale]] and the Ustaše-in-exile movement that [[Ante Pavelic]] set up in South America might still be usefully under our scope.
::I agree that a party holding itself out to be fascist is important (I've included it on <nowiki>{{FascismTalk2}}</nowiki> as condition 7); I certainly can't think of any counterexamples calling themselves "fascist", although there are a few "national socialist" parties that took that name before the Nazis gave it its current meaning.
::As far as syndicalism goes, Kershaw definitely sees it in Germany, although as the politics of the Nazi state developed this began to blur. Certainly the way heavy industry was aligned was, initially, quite vertical, with considerable amounts of government planning and with leaders of German industry in high positions in the government.
::I think this leads into the question of how to classify [[Falangism]]; as far as I can tell falangism always includes the syndicalist corporatist element, and I have to admit I don't see why so many historians don't call falangism an intrinsically fascistic movement. [[User:Stlemur|Stlemur]] 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
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