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Agreed. ''Cloud computing'' is the mother of all abstractions. [[User:SamJohnston|samj]] ([[User talk:SamJohnston|talk]]) 09:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Cloud services vs. 'cloud computing' ==
 
I want to suggest that 'cloud services' are the proper term and 'cloud computing' just creates confusion as it's jargon-based. Cloud services are akin to web services, but outside the firewall. One poster asked about the difference between ASP and Cloud computing, mentioning that they seemed similar. They aren't. The ASP model is one of a complete application run in a hosted manner. Cloud services are discrete point services (storage, compute, payment processing, etc.). You put together a number of cloud services to build a complete application. This is EXACTLY the same as Web services. The major differences lie in the fact that 'web service' was mostly something produced and consumed behind the corporate firewall. Cloud services differ by being out in the cloud, providing access to everyone for that web service, and using some kind of innovative charge model (usually the 'utility' model) where anyone can afford it, even for a short period of time. I tried to outline this more here: http://neotactics.com/blog/technology/short-sighted-about-cloud-computing
 
My main thrust being that 'cloud service' == 'web service' might help clarify the discussion. 'Cloud computing' doesn't really relate to anything.
 
And yes, 'web service' is a terrible term, but it's somewhat established at this point. :D
 
: '''Disagree''' ''Cloud services'' are a subset of ''cloud computing'' but they need not be web services n the traditional sense (eg REST/SOAP)... XMPP is used to push mail to iPhones for example... and I think we'll see increasing diversity going forward. [[User:SamJohnston|samj]] ([[User talk:SamJohnston|talk]]) 09:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 
:: Ok cloud service ~= web service, but cloud computing stays. Archiving. [[User:SamJohnston|samj]] ([[User talk:SamJohnston|talk]]) 10:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)