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:::# I think there's a fair number of sidebars where 22.0em would be too wide, e.g. to point to one I've seen recently, {{tl|Culture of Poland sidebar}}. The {{c|Politics series sidebar templates}} and {{c|Political ideology templates}} use an inherited 18.0em. However, I suppose this default could be mentioned in the documentation and/or placed <code style="95%;"><nowiki><!--Use width:22.0em; to match default infobox width--></nowiki></code> next to the <code style="95%;">|style = </code> entry in the "Full blank syntax" section, or in a separate section of its own?
:::# My understanding is that "header" applies only to items at the top of a page/template/document/etc, whereas "heading" doesn't; hence "heading"s here as they can appear throughout the template. Not sure how "title" differs from its {{tl|Navbox}} use..?
::::[[User:Sardanaphalus|Sardanaphalus]] ([[User talk:Sardanaphalus|talk]]) 14:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::# I'm aware that we disagree here. The point is that on the whole more editors appear to contribute when the code is simpler, so in the interests of furthering participation in the use of the template is might be a gesture of good faith to adopt a simpler coding style in it.
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::::# "Heading" and "header" are basically synonyms. In terms of what they do in code, they both put up a bold, centred line of text. There's little reason to give them different names.
:::: [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 15:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::# If it's the case that more people tend to be put off by headings and alignments than find them useful, then I suppose it makes sense to remove them. I have no idea whether or not that's true, though. If so, maybe it's because templates like this only tend to be edited by people who are relatively experienced at computer programming, unlike myself. My experience is that trying to find the start of a section of code or the braces that mark the end of an <code style="font-size:95%;"><nowiki>{{#if:</nowiki></code> (or...) can be time-consuming and frustrating in templates where there's little or no code spacing/formatting.
:::::# I think there are probably as many pages -- maybe more -- that include sidebars alone as pages that include sidebars and infoboxes, so I'm beginning to think that setting no default might be the most appropriate situation. 22.0em eats a fair way into the page -- especially in smaller windows/screens -- and would be wider than the majority of sidebars I've seen so far, so I'd say setting this width feels more like an exception than a good default.
:::::# Okay, by all means add "header" as an alternative parameter name, or make "heading" the alternative to "header". (Is it {{tl|Infobox}} that uses "header"?)
:::::: [[User:Sardanaphalus|Sardanaphalus]] ([[User talk:Sardanaphalus|talk]]) 10:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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