Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Image workshop/Archive/Nov 2008: Difference between revisions

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:Please keep discussions about the same image in the same section. Thanks. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 20:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

::The second image has been altered, but I'm not going to touch the orignal. I don't want to mess with text size of the numbers. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 20:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== Oeste region ==

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'''Article(s):''' [[:pt:Região de Turismo do Oeste]], ...

'''Request:''' It's this map : http://europedirect.draplvt.min-agricultura.pt/imagens/mapa_regiao_oeste.png

Please, it's aslo a this map, not Portugal [[User:Cancelos|Cancelos]] ([[User talk:Cancelos|talk]]) 12:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''I was looking for a different map, and it would help to know where the map is located. Portugal from the looks of it? Also, what article would this go into? Thanks! <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 21:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

:[[:Image:LocalNUTS3Oeste.svg]] describes where in portugal it is. [[:Image:Mapa de Portugal.svg]] can be used to get the subdivisions. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 16:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

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== Jaffna library ==

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'''Graphist opinion:''' I fixed it. [[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 11:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Flatten paper ==

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Image:FullSalis&ffaneMarriageSettlement.jpg

Image:FullSalis&ffaneMarriageSettlement-retouched.jpg

Image:FullSalis&ffaneMarriageSettlement-edit1.jpg

</gallery></center>

'''Articels:''' [[Marriage a-la-mode: 1. The Marriage Settlement]]

'''Request:''' Is it possible to "flatten" the paper out, correct the washed out parts and crop the black so it's possibly legible? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 22:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

'''Oppinion:''' I can crop the image and adjust for the color/brightness... but I can't remove the bend of the paper. I'll give it a try when I get home. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 02:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

*Ok, here's my attempt... hows this look? ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 04:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

::Good improvements, but the upper right hand is still very dark. Can anything be done about it? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 18:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

'''Opinion 2:''' How about this (-edit1). I cropped your original, did some noise reduction, adjusted levels and removed the browning and sharpened to enhance readability. [[User:Mfield|Mfield]] ([[User talk:Mfield|talk]]) 06:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

:Better, but the upper right corner is still noticeably darker. Is there anything that can be done the, or is that as good as it gets? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 08:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

::I'll have another look when I get the chance but it's been pushed a long way already, there may be not much more data left to push without artifacting. [[User:Mfield|Mfield]] ([[User talk:Mfield|talk]]) 18:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:::I'll accept this as done. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Russian Scout Guide, [[:Image:RussianScoutGuide.jpg]]==

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Image:Grahpic Lab Copyright.svg|[[:Image:RussianScoutGuide.jpg]]

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):'''

'''Request:''' umm, just basically cleanup-background, perspective, depth of coloration... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 15:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

:That does not appear to be a free image (scan of a book cover, etc) and there is no fair-use rational. Can you fix the licensing first? ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 07:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

::Fixed. [[Special:Contributions/118.13.94.131|118.13.94.131]] ([[User talk:118.13.94.131|talk]]) 17:45, November 8, 2008 (UTC)

:::I uploaded a new version of image, [[:Image:RussianScoutGuide.jpg|how is it]]? '''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='color:#800000;background-color:#FFE4E1;'>&nbsp; ■ MMXX</span>]]'''^{[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #800000;'>talk</span>'']]&nbsp;} 09:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:It's nice, thank you! Can you trim off excess bordering (still black spots on left side), and is it possible to even out the coloration? Thank you! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

::I uploaded three other version over same file (See [[:Image:RussianScoutGuide.jpg#filehistory|file history]]), please compare them and tell me which one is better, then (if needed) I will upload the final version agein. '''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='color:#800000;background-color:#FFE4E1;'>&nbsp; ■ MMXX</span>]]'''^{[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #800000;'>talk</span>'']]&nbsp;} 09:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I just would like to point out that the quality of the already poor original image is severely degraded in the latest edit from 10:19, 11 November 2008[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/RussianScoutGuide.jpg] (very visible JPEG or sharpening artifacts, lost details). I think that the best version is the <s>[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081111091645!RussianScoutGuide.jpg first edit from 20:25, 13 December 2006]</s> [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081111091645!RussianScoutGuide.jpg first edit from 10:01, 9 November 2008] although it is oversharpened. --[[User:Pabouk|pabouk]] ([[User talk:Pabouk|talk]]) 09:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I am confused by your comment, about sharpening the final version wich labled ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/RussianScoutGuide.jpg Edit 4]) and first edit wich labled ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081111091645%21RussianScoutGuide.jpg Retouched - 09:01, November 9, 2008]) and the original image ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081109090145%21RussianScoutGuide.jpg 19:25, December 13, 2006]) are nearly same, I did only sharpened the image just in ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081111091955%21RussianScoutGuide.jpg Edit 3 - 09:18, November 11, 2008]) and ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20081111091816%21RussianScoutGuide.jpg Edit 2 - 09:16, November 11, 2008]). I think you have problem with viweing images try emptying your browser's cache or refresh page by (Ctrl+F5). and also I don't know why the numbers that you wrote in your comment are different by the hours in the file history. '''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='color:#800000;background-color:#FFE4E1;'>&nbsp; ■ MMXX</span>]]'''^{[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #800000;'>talk</span>'']]&nbsp;} 05:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

::::: Sorry, I originally included wrong date for the first edit (now I repaired it). The hours are probably different because I am in a different time zone and the time is displayed as local time (not UTC). I certainly do not have problem with cached images. The first edit labelled "Retouched" is a little bit aggressively sharpened. Maybe your software sharpens images without letting you know. May I know what do you use? I would say that there is no need to sharpen the original image or it could be sharpened just very lightly. Please compare the original image and the last edit "Edit 4" (probably made from the first edit). You will see that there are ugly artifacts on the sharp edges - easily visible on the line under the label in the centre.

::::: The edits 2 and 3 are not only sharpened but also converted to monochrome / two-levels (light and dark). I am certainly not a fan of such heavy modifications. It is not a restoration of the original. --[[User:Pabouk|pabouk]] ([[User talk:Pabouk|talk]]) 10:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I did upload another version without ''any'' sharpening, but the problem is stretching the image make it more blurred than original image so I thought a little sharpening would be fine and also a little sharpening make the image more clear, anyway you can compare edits and decide which one is better. by the way I use Adobe Photoshop. '''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='color:#800000;background-color:#FFE4E1;'>&nbsp; ■ MMXX</span>]]'''^{[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #800000;'>talk</span>'']]&nbsp;} 08:35, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::Thank you. You are right that the stretched image is slightly blurred and a little bit of sharpening will probably help. Maybe the stretching tool in Photoshop allows selection of interpolation algorithm. [[Lanczos resampling|Lanczos]] with higher parameter than 3 will produce sharper output. Personally I would say that Edit 5 is much better than Edit 4. But I am not one who is interested in this particular image. I am just a passer-by :) --[[User:Pabouk|pabouk]] ([[User talk:Pabouk|talk]]) 11:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

:This is great, thank you so much! Marking {{resolved}} [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 18:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)