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==={{tl|Estonia-geo-stub}} and {{tl|Belarus-geo-stub}}===
Sigh. Two more geo-stubs discovered. Both nicely formed and populated with some of the stubs from these countries that exist (I've added the rest). In the case of Estonia there's no problem, it's well populated with 80 stubs. Belarus didn't look too viable at first, but there are more stubs than I remembered now that I've gone through Euro-geo-stub (close to 50). Still not enough that it would have been made, but probably enough not to be sent over to Stub Types for Deletion. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 05:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
==September 2005 discoveries==
==={{tl|Teesside-geo-stub}}===
New creation, with no category. Refers to some urban area in England. My hunch is that it ought to be deleted since it seems to go against our current splitting of England-geo-stub by county, but I let someone who knows more about English geography decide whether to put it on [[WP:SFD]]... --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 17:28, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
:A definite SFD - As per Wikipedia policy on counties, items are being split according to the ''ceremonial'' counties - Teesside is not a ceremonial county iand is already covered by the Durham and Yorkshire stubs. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|jazz-stub}} / [[:Category:Jazz stubs|Jazz stubs]]===
Added today to [[:Category:Musician stubs]]. Approximately 70 articles, which seem to be about Jazz musicians, rather than just Jazz. --[[User:TheParanoidOne|TheParanoidOne]] 16:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
:Not really a discovery - this one's gone through the process at WP:WSS/P - admittedly it's been made a few days early, but it's more-or-less sanctioned. Not sure what to do with the musicians in it, though. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
::Oh yes, I see it now. I must be going blind! --[[User:TheParanoidOne|TheParanoidOne]] 05:29, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|United States Armed Forces-stub}}===
Seems to be connected to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Armed Forces]]. --[[User:Joy|Joy <small><small>[shallot]</small></small>]] 22:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
:sigh. useful, but horribly named. Do we have a {{tl|US-mil-stub}}? If so, I'd redirect it there, if not, I'd rename this one. And, of course, tell the WikiProject. Shame about the project's acronym. USAF-stub would have been a good name, but it would ignore the army and navy! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:28, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
::We definitely need {{tl|US-mil-stub}}. I've seen boocoodles of [[:Category:United States-related stubs|United States-related stubs]] and [[:Category:Military stubs|Military stubs]] that would go into it. I'll [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals|propose]] it. — [[User:Fingers-of-Pyrex|Fingers-of-Pyrex]] 17:07, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|SP-stub}}===
Like to guess? South Park. I've renamed this one to {{tl|SouthPark-stub}}, as per our naming guidelines, and it will ''probably'' be useful, give the amount of South Park cruft out there, but - yet again - it would have been nice if the person who made this had gone through process. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:37, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Surrey-geo-stub}} / [[:Category:Surrey geography stubs]]===
Not discussed on [[WP:WSS/P]], but [[User:Grutness/Geo-stub tallying|Grutness's counts]] indicate that it has 74 articles, so it'd be worth keeping. Looks well formed. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 01:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
:Sigh. Still, as you say, it would have been split off eventually. I was going to start the next split today, but I'll fill this one instead - the others can wait for a while. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 07:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Croatia-stub}} / [[:Category:Croatia-related stubs]]===
Created today and added to [[WP:WSS/ST]], but not proposed. Has 14 articles at present. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 01:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
:Currently has 55 articles. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to expand it. It would have been nice if it had been proposed though. [[User:Aecis|Aecis]] 18:34, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Netherlands-stub}} / [[:Category:Netherlands-related stubs]]===
Jolly darn logical, category looks fine, and is even the supercat of some other out-of-process stub categories (not of the -geo-stub, though). No template, though, and (hence!) no articles, though a small number "mis-point" to the non-template. Hrm, seemingly this was deleted some time ago. Perhaps this should be (re-)created, and the sub-cat templated redirected to it pro temps, if population is going to be an issue? [[User:Alai|Alai]] 06:11, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
: Sounds like a good idea, if it's fixed up. I haven't been around long enough to know why it was deleted in the first place, though. --[[User:Alynna.Kasmira|Alynna]] 00:56, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
::The reason it was deleted is that it seems to have been like the recent [[User:Maoririder]] stubs - one sentence with no link to a category. It seems to have been speedily deleted by [[User:Duncharris]] without having gone through the SFD or TFD process only two days after it was created. Coincidentally I proposed the creation of just this stub type a couple of days ago. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 05:27, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Kansas-geo-stub}} / [[:Category:Kansas geography stubs]]===
Newly created; used on 14 articles (which is a few more than [[User:Grutness/Geo-stub tallying|Grutness's last count]]). Category lacks any stub category parents. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 06:17, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
*The others couldn't have been previously marked US-midwest-geo-stub. Kansas is one of the least populous states, stub-wise. I suppose we can keep it around and see if it grows, but it's a shame it got made when it was the just about the least deserving. Still, at least it wasn't Delaware. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:37, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
**Correction - almost all of these are new stubs, created in the last 24 hours. Only one of the ones I listed has made its way into the new category (something I'm about to remedy). If the number of stubs keeps increasing at this rate, perhaps it will be viable soon after all. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:43, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Wwiair-stub}}/[[:Category:Wwiair-stub]]===
Two articles, created on July 14th, by [[User:FranksValli]] 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
:If, as I suspect, this is for WWI air-related stubs, it at the very least needs a clearer name - especially the category. Given that there are currently 53 stubs in {{cl|World War I stubs}}, it doesn't really need splitting at the moment, either. And {{cl|World War I aviation}} only has eleven articles other than air aces (stubs about whom would be bio-stubs anyway). Unnecessary. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 04:34, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Canada-poligeo-stub}} / [[:Category:Canadian political geography stubs]]===
Created in the past day; unused. Well formed, a side from certain definitional issues. [[Political geography]] seems abit vague (based on that article, which could use some cleanup), but the stub category seems primarily intended for electoral districts, and local/regional politics. A stub for one of those ''might'' be useful, but [[:Category:Canada politics stubs]] has only 161 articles at present. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 05:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*Actually, if it's unused it doesn't have ''any'' articles. Canada's geography - as far as stubs are concerned - is thoroughly covered by division on a provincial level. This stub type cuts straight through that in the worst possible way. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:32, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
**I meant to link [[:Category:Canada politics stubs]] instead in the last sentence, as that's what I was refering to (and I've fixed it to that now). --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 07:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*That makes more sense - I tried [[:Category:Canadian political geography]] but it didn't exist! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 07:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*Firstly, my apologies for running afoul of this WikiProject. Allow me to plead ignorance for violating general protocol. Anyway, [[User:Mairi|Mairi]] is largely correct—it's a constituency stub, essentially, with a broader name so some other articles could find their way in there that aren't specifically about indivdual constituencies but still concern geographic-based political trends. (I've been meaning to write a [[905 belt]] article for some time now, which is a good example that any Canadian would understand. I supposed analagous articles from other countries would be titles like [[Red state]] or [[Rotten borough]].) Interestingly, the articles I'm hoping to move into this new stubcat are scattered at present, with the majority (wrongly) placed in <nowiki>{{Canada-gov-stub}}</nowiki>. That category is presently oversized, and should ideally only concern articles related to the mechanics and institutions of the Canadian government/the civil service etc. -[[User:The Tom|The Tom]] 00:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**It's not clear to me that they're in that category ''wrongly'', but I agree that it's oversized, and that this would be a fairly logical split. By a quick eyeball, it certainly looks viable. So you're a good deal less afoul than many. :) I suggest it be supercatted as both of the above stub types, for clarity. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|India-university-stub}} / [[:Category:India university stubs]]===
Wasn't proposed, but other than that looks fine. Well formed, and filled with 70 articles (despite being created today). I've gone ahead and added it to [[WP:WSS/ST]]. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 05:30, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
:Sounds reasonable - {{cl|University stubs}} definitely needs a split, and India would be one of the most logical ones to split off (Africa, China and Japan would probably also be useful). [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Polymer-stub}} / [[:Category:Polymer stubs]]===
Newly created. No idea if it will have an audience; have asked the author. --[[User:Joy|Joy <small><small>[shallot]</small></small>]] 22:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*I'm pretty sure this was proposed at WP:WSS/P and there were no objections. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:26, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**It was (on [[5 Spetember 2005]]). I'll be populating it this weekend when I go through {{tl|Chem-stub}}. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 08:08, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**Yep, as it turns out, I'm on crack. :) Nevertheless, there should be a projection of how many stubs will end up in this category. --[[User:Joy|Joy <small><small>[shallot]</small></small>]] 09:16, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
***Hard to say. There are probably about 50 stubs sitting in {{tl|Chem-stub}} to be moved here straight away, that depends what sort of shape that category is in after the summer. There is also the new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Polymers|WikiProject Polymers]] which is trying to rationalise Wikipedia treatment of this area and which will doubtless produce stubs on the way (as well as treating them, of course). So lets say 50-100 in the short to medium term. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 18:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**50 plus, ''and'' a wikiproject. That should be fine. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 00:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
***76 now that I've done the clear-out of {{tl|chem-stub}}. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 16:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Australia-road-stub}}===
Apparently, for the last three months we've had a {{cl|Australian road stubs}}. it would have been very nice if its creator had let us know. It had a template {{tl|AU-road-stub}} which I've moved to Australia-road-stub,a s per our naming conventions (I'm taking the original name to SFD...) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 13:27, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Climbingbio-stub}} / [[:Category:Climbing biography stubs]]===
Created 3 days ago, used on 50 articles. I've added it to WP:WSS/ST given it's current size. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 04:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
==={{tl|Vabio-stub}} / [[:Category:Biography of Virginians stubs]]===
Even if we want to divide US-bio-stub by state, there are so many things wrong with this stub type. Both the category and template greatly need renaming. The category needs parent categories, and the template has some formatting issue that causes the text to wrap. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 02:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
:Allez au SFD, je pense. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
===[[:Category:Deprecated stubs]]===
[[:Category:Deprecated stubs]] was intended to perform the same function as [[:Category:Stubs]], but I didn't realize the latter category already performed that function. With all the different "for Deletion" rules and types, I have no idea where to put this these days. Sadly, gone are the days when <nowiki>{{cfd}}</nowiki> would suffice. [[User:Adraeus|Adraeus]] 02:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
:I think you mean ''thankfully'' those days are gone. They were a nightmare as far as incorrect stub categories. It's still a pretty straightforward system now, but much more efficient - [[WP:SFD]] is what you want. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 03:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
:Speedy deletion would also work, either because it was created by mistake, or for being empty for 24 hours. --[[User:Mairi|Mairi]] 04:22, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
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