Talk:Book of Revelation/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

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This title issue should be discussed. The King James Version of the Bible is pretty language but arguably one of the worst translations. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is not the most common name for the book discussed here. Most KJV bibles list it as "The Revelation of St. John the Divine," which is arguably not historically accurate--there is a big debate over John's identity. While "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is the beginning of the first verse--the first verse is considered a preface to the actual text. I am changing it back until there is a discussion here with some sourcing. --[[User:Cberlet|Cberlet]] 13:03, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

* I really have to agree with parent comment. The article seems to indicate that the title "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is an Evangelical Protestant peculiarity. However, the article incorrectly states that ''"the actual title of the book is Revelation, or the Revelation to John, as it is rendered at the beginning of the book."'' This is totally incorrect. I've checked at least 5 different major English translations of Revelations 1:1 and they all - almost word-for-word - start with the words '''The Revelation of Jesus Christ'''. In fact, nowhere in this book are the words "the Revelation of John" written. John may have written down the revelation from Jesus, but according to the first verse of this book - the revelation was from God to Jesus. So I'm being bold, and correcting this error. [[User:Stephenw77|Stephenw77]] 04:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Cberlet and Stephen,

the book is commonly called "Revelation of John" or "Apokalypse of John". There was more than one Apocalypse around and they are distinguished by adding the one to whom it was addressed, hence the name. However, the title the book gives itself in the first line:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"

The identity of the author is no problem at all in this regard. The seer is clearly called John. Who this John was is another question but not relevant to the name. [[User:Str1977|Str1977]] 17:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

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