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If you don't know anything about Cloud Computing mine as well stop bragging. --[[Special:Contributions/70.79.65.227|70.79.65.227]] ([[User talk:70.79.65.227|talk]]) 08:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
== External Links Diagram ==
Regarding about external links diagrams. Currently they are a lot of company out there that have a diagram of the infrastructure. Many of them claim to be cloud, but if you wish to place a diagram there, try to choose a diagram that includes most of the technologies. Not a diagram that only focus on a topics, the information is too forefont, but not everybody may agree with your opinion, so its best to place them to each article accordingly.
Because the number of technologies that Cloud can use is nearly infinite. Some believe in the following
* ("as a "service")
* { Web Application (+/-) Web Services (+/-) WebOS } Buisness Processing
* middleware tunneling
* platform computing
* edge computing
* elastic computing
* green computing
* virtualization
and many more...etc.
Note: Many of the types of computing does exist in Wikipedia, but are only recognized or introduced by some companies we shouldn't eliminate them. The Cloud Computing has even reach a pre-mature stage, so its not for us to judge who is correct since the industry haven't agree on a common standards or a common concept. Therefore try to be openminded.
The (+/-) means "and / or"
:e.g WS (+/-) Web Application.
:: Actual meaning: Web Service and/or Web Application
I choose Enomaly ECP diagram, because it include the following: VPN, middleware, API, WS and little of Platform Computing prototype ideas. Hope you can find a better one.
==== Suggestions ====
Another great way to organize Cloud Computing external links, I would suggest is whenever an example or company is placed. Record down every one of them, and organize them by type of services / companies.
e.g. Are they the following
* DotComs
* Server Products (software)
* Services
* Solutions
* Platforms
* Mobile Application
I think this will give everybody a better idea of what cloud computing actually is, instead of arguing what technologies is cloud computing. Thus it will clear up of what is "as a service", platform computing...etc (<--the aforementioned topics)
Though I guess in the future the Cloud Computing article will mostly likely be explaining the types of implementations, history, practices...etc. and probably things like traditional approaches, methodologies.
--[[Special:Contributions/70.79.65.227|70.79.65.227]] ([[User talk:70.79.65.227|talk]]) 04:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Links to examples or companies usually are not appropriate. See [[WP:EL]], [[WP:SPAM]], and [[WP:NOTLINK]] --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 05:15, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The aforementioned subjects I mentioned clearly support that this isn't spam, and this clearly isn't an example, it is a reference diagram intended for users understanding how Cloud Computing works. Since the infrastructure section doesn't have any structure paragraph develop on this subjects, yet. I think this diagram would serve a well guide as it encompass more than just one topics. Users can then find out each of the technologies if they wish to learn on the technicality of the subjects. Though this may not be the best one, but we should try to find more, and choose the best one accordingly.
If the diagram only deals with one subjects that is spam (advertising), but in this case it isn't.
--[[Special:Contributions/70.79.65.227|70.79.65.227]] ([[User talk:70.79.65.227|talk]]) 05:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:While it is indeed advertising, it's clearly promotional. Further, we're here to write encyclopedia articles, rather than to link to other sources of information. If you want to dispute this further, [[WP:THIRD]] would be a good place to do so, or anything else recommended in [[WP:DR]]. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 15:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I am placing it back on, as you are unable to provide any evidence that it is advertising. The links does meet any of the with [[WP:EL]], [[WP:SPAM]], and [[WP:NOTLINK]] policy violation. Also before I asked should be just link the image, you ignore my questions and insists of removing it and end of story without any evidence, that is violating WP:CONS.
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:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cloud_computing&diff=256171873&oldid=256160287
((rv) This isn't advertisement, if the company allow Wikipedia to use the
diagram copyright I wouldn't have link it.)
--[[Special:Contributions/70.79.65.227|70.79.65.227]] ([[User talk:70.79.65.227|talk]]) 20:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry, but the burden of evidence is with you. See [[WP:PROVEIT]]. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 02:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I already prove the diagram doesn't violate the policy. --[[Special:Contributions/70.79.65.227|70.79.65.227]] ([[User talk:70.79.65.227|talk]]) 10:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:Looks like I'm not the only one that disagrees. Thanks for not reverting it back yet again. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 16:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:Ronz|Ronz]]. Turns out this was [[User:Ramu50|Ramu50]] again (as a sock), even though Enomaly have a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enomaly very] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuven_Cohen long] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Private_Cloud history] of [[WP:SPAM|spamming]] Wikipedia. -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 18:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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