Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Image workshop/Archive/Jan 2009: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 08:03, 20 January 2009

Revision as of 08:01, 22 January 2009

Line 683:

How's that? [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] ([[User talk:Time3000|talk]]) 16:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

:Looks great thanks alot <font face="bold xx serif">[[User:PRODUCER|<font color="black">PRODUCER</font>]] ^{([[User talk:PRODUCER|<font color="black">TALK</font>]])}</font> 18:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

== Map of Syria with Turkish names ==

{{Resolved}}

<center><gallery>

File:Sy-map.png|Latest CIA map of Syria.

File:Syria ___location map.svg | SVG without text

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):'''

'''Request:''' The following is copied from my user talk page. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:''Could you tell me how can we edit writings on a PNG file? Actually, I wanna translate the words of the map '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sy-map.png Syria]''' into Turkish language. Do you know how to work on such files? Gracias--[[User:Tuleytula|Tuleytula]] ([[User talk:Tuleytula|talk]]) 19:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC) By the way, my homewikipedia is here:[http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Tuleytula Tuleytula], and this is my discussion page:[http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1_mesaj:Tuleytula Tuleytula Mesaj]--[[User:Tuleytula|Tuleytula]] ([[User talk:Tuleytula|talk]]) 19:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)''

I assume the request was made of me due to my editing of [[:File:Gaza-Israel war casualties.png]] which is used in [[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict]]. I am not too experienced though with adding text to images. I will leave a left a note on his talk page, ([http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1_mesaj:Tuleytula Tuleytula Mesaj]), pointing him to here.

This map category may be of use: [[commons:Category:Maps of Syria]]. The latest [[CIA Factbook]] map of Syria is here:

*https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.html

I uploaded the latest version to [[:File:Sy-map.gif]] and [[:File:Sy-map.png]] in the Commons. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:I want to translate the texts on the map of [[:File:Sy-map.gif|Syria]] into Turkish language such as '''Deyrizor''' instead of '''Dayr az Zawr'''. [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Shliahov Shliahov] told me I can use Inkscape to make changes on a SVG file. Thanks to Shliahov, I will try it. I also wonder how can we change writings on a PNG or a GIF file?--[[User:Tuleytula|Tuleytula]] ([[User talk:Tuleytula|talk]]) 15:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll be grateful too if anybody guide me how I can change the texts on a JPEG file such as that [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golan_92.jpg Golan map]. Thanks--[[User:Tuleytula|Tuleytula]] ([[User talk:Tuleytula|talk]]) 16:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' @Tuleytula: You should distinguish between [[Bitmap]] files like png, jpg, gif, ... and vector files like svg. ''In svg'' you basically store the elements (line, square, text,...) that make up the picture. That's why you can easily edit such files. In inkscape for instance you would just select the text, move it around or type in a new text. Since the background is saved independently from the text, there is no problem. ''Bitmaps'' on the other hand are pixel-based, which means that you store colour information at every point in the picture (simplified). Texts, lines or other elements are not distinguished in bitmaps. They are just areas of uniform colour. There is for instance no background behind the text! This is a problem if you want to change the text as a different area of the background will be covered by the new text. If the background is uniform (one colour/brightness) you could remove the old text with some image editor like [[GIMP]]. If the background is not uniform you might be able in some cases to reconstruct it from other sources (for instance border lines). If you have a relief in the background or other complicated structure it is much too complicated to recreate it. In this case it is better to create a new map from scratch or to contact the original author of the map. As for the CIA Syria map, you have almost everywhere a uniform background behind the text so you could edit it with GIMP or photoshop. Just redraw the border at the Golan Heights which is covered by 'Al'. However, the resolution of that map is not that great and I am not sure that the CIA maps can be legally edited. You might consider putting text into [[:File:Syria outline map.png]] instead (with inkscape for instance). Hope it answered your question.[[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 18:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Image license notes: CIA maps are in the [[public ___domain]]. So the map or its derivatives can be edited in any way. Almost any media produced by the U.S. Federal government is in the public ___domain. See the license tag at [[commons:File:Sy-map.gif]]. See also: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=fromgov commons upload for images from a US federal government source]. See also: [[commons:Commons:Copyright tags#United States]]. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 01:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

::Indeed they are PD. No problem with the license. But the map is low resolution anyway. [[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 09:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

:::UN maps might work, and are larger maps with higher resolution than the CIA maps for the most part. They are free images too. There is also an image license template for UN maps: [[Template:UN map]]. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps]] may be able to help, and they have sources for some higher resolution maps. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 09:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

:::: I found an image on commons that seems to have been produced by the German map lab, and is just an SVG of the CIA map but without the text. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] ([[User talk:Time3000|talk]]) 17:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::I pointed Tuleytula to that SVG map via a note on [http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1_mesaj:Tuleytula his talk page]. He thanked me on my talk page. I thank you! :)

:::::I guess we can mark this "resolved." --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 19:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)