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Resolved by creation of [[:File:Cloud computing.svg]] -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
== Cloud Computing Definition ==
You should not justify a point untill it's made. Entering references in the middle of the sentence is not correct.
And misuse of parenthesis andq uotation marks still apply. Also, I had corrected irrelevant or wrong links. You should not give links to every word that has an article written. You should only give links when the reader might need to understand some other term in order to understand the article. The links to [[The Cloud]] and [[Everything as a Service]] are ridiculously irrelevant. Stop link spamming!!! --[[User:Emrekenci|Emre Kenci]] ([[User talk:Emrekenci|talk]]) 15:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:So as I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Emrekenci&diff=270020512&oldid=268274944 said before], please identify any relevant policy or guideline regarding our ''"misuse of parenthesis andq uotation marks"'' before reverting again. And while you're there you might want to take a look at [[WP:LINKSPAM]] because it seems you're confused... the [[Everything as a service|as a service]] article was created specifically to support this one and to consolidate the common features of SaaS, PaaS, etc. - thus is is absolutely relevant. [[The Cloud]] explains what the cloud is so it's relevant too. In any case there is no need to come in here and abuse us because you don't like our punctuation style. -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 17:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand how making corrections is abusing. Anyway I suggest you read [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style]] in particular the quotations and parentheses part. The way they are used in the current version is simply wrong. I will leave correcting them to you since I feel you have the my-article-no-one-can-edit attitude which is common. have fun cloud boy :) --[[User:Emrekenci|Emre Kenci]] ([[User talk:Emrekenci|talk]]) 19:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
: Right so your condescending "teaching native speakers punctuation" edit above refers to [[WP:MOS#Quotation_marks|this policy]] which specifically allows for both [[scare quotes]] and parentheses. Next time [[RTFM]] before referring to it. -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 22:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Punctuation aside, [[The Cloud]] is a dab page and hence not very useful to link to here. To quote [[WP:D]], "With very few exceptions, creating links to disambiguation pages is erroneous". [[User:Letdorf|Letdorf]] ([[User talk:Letdorf|talk]]) 11:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC).
::: The usage in the definition are not examples of scare quotes. "Scare quotes indicate to the reader that the word or phrase does not signify its literal or conventional meaning" both cloud and computing words signify their conventional meanings. AND even if it was appropriate to use scare quotes for those words, the parentheses are still wrong. There's nothing about the use of parentheses in [[scare quotes]]. Leave aside being wrong, they add nothing to the understandability of this article and decrease its readibility. The article [[The Cloud]] should be copied to [[Wikitionary]]--[[User:Emrekenci|Emre Kenci]] ([[User talk:Emrekenci|talk]]) 13:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::: You're probably right but I tend to stick to WP and commons so I've tagged it accordingly for someone else to take care of. Turns out [[The Cloud]] definition is from this article anyway. -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 17:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: I guess we agree on the misuse of scare quotes too. Please do not press on with this, I made quite a research on it and I'm %100 sure that it is wrong to use parentheses and scare quotes together. Scare quotes alone is the appropriate punctuation here. If you revert this edit without any arguments again, I warn you, it will be the third time. No offense. --[[User:Emrekenci|Emre Kenci]] ([[User talk:Emrekenci|talk]]) 14:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Second thoughts it might also be appropriate to use parentheses, Sam you might decide it better because it changes by what you're actually trying to emphasise. If "''It is their word not mine'' is what you're trying to say then scare quotes. If you want to clarify, to place an afterthought, or to add a personal comment go with (). BUT not together! <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emrekenci|Emrekenci]] ([[User talk:Emrekenci|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emrekenci|contribs]]) 15:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::: It is legitimate and intended to use both together, as it seems you have discovered. Scare quotes can be used inline to indicate that it's not "my" word, or that validity is questioned (e.g. Don't "diss" the editors) and parentheses reduce the emphasis, like an [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aside aside] or whispering during a discussion. Here's some example from [http://www.folialinguistica.com/documents/notes.pdf these] [http://www.springer.com/?SGWID=4-102-45-126888-0 style] [http://polyglot.lss.wisc.edu/aans/PAANSStyle.pdf guides]:
::::::<blockquote>''3. Punctuation. (a) Use double quotation marks for direct quotations and for qualified words/phrases (“scare quotes”), as well as for titles of shorter works (articles, poems, and short stories).''</blockquote>
::::::<blockquote>''Double quotes are used for quotations and for the introduction of new terms ("scare quotes")''</blockquote>
::::::<blockquote>Double quotation marks can also be used sparingly for terms used in a semi-technical sense or terms whose validity is questioned (“scare quotes”).</blockquote>
::::::In this case it is both not "my" word and it's not inline, so both are called for. Thanks for playing. -- <u style="text-decoration:none; font-family: papyrus;">[[User:SamJohnston|samj]] <small><sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:Samj|in]]</font></sub><sup><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SamJohnston|out]]</font></sup></small></u> 18:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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