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:When the developers see fit to fix {{bug|16552}}, which is really not a particularly difficult thing to implement; someone with shell access just needs to change one line of config and run one maintenance script (although I realise it might be a fairly epic run; it would essentially reset every category sorkey on every Wikimedia wiki). I would encourage people to go vote for that bug if you have a bugzilla account, and to otherwise poke the devs in any way you can. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 22:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

::Okay, I voted for it at Bugzilla. Anything else we can do? Thanks. --[[User:Funandtrvl|Funandtrvl]] ([[User talk:Funandtrvl|talk]]) 23:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Portals ==

If a TF maintains a portal, shouldn't there be some switches for it in the TF section? [[Special:Contributions/76.66.193.90|76.66.193.90]] ([[User talk:76.66.193.90|talk]]) 09:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not sure if it would be worth implementing this because I don't think there are many circumstances where it would be used. It should be easy to do on a case-by-case basis though. Do you have a particular banner in mind? [[User:Msgj|Martin]]^{[[User talk:Msgj|Msgj]]} 16:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::I've seen it in use on the [[Template:WikiProject Canada|WikiProject Canada]] template. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::I was thinking of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight]] with [[Portal:Spaceflight]], which uses {{tl|WPSpace}} - shared between multiple WikiProjects, Task Forces, and Work Groups, but since WP:CANADA also does it, it would seem a generalized form would be good. There's also {{tl|AfricaProject}} to look at, since that's the template for all the countries of Africa WikiProjects, and some of them have portals. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.193.90|76.66.193.90]] ([[User talk:76.66.193.90|talk]]) 05:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Good and Featured ==

So, there has been some discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment]] and, moreso, via [[WP:IRC|IRC]], which has reached some amount of consensus that marking articles as "Good" and "Featured" should be done separately from the rest of the assessment scheme... e.g., an article which is currently FA-Class would become a Featured A-Class article. I was wondering if this template could be modified so that "Good" and "Featured" (preferably not GA and FA) by additional parameters, separate from class, which (if answered as "yes") marks the article as being Good or Featured, respectively, in a box in between "class" and "importance." If possible then, could all currently GA- or FA-Class articles be marked as B-Class automatically, until more A-Class reviews get going (the primary focus of the IRC and discussion).

This is a type of intermediate step towards a goal of separating WikiProject assessments from other, site-wide assessments. Marking an article as "Good" applies to the entirety of Wikipedia, whereas the meaning of "A-Class" varies from project to project. In my opinion, and that of other users including [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] and [[User:Geometry guy|Geometry guy]], these two strongly designated assessments should be separated from the remainder of the assessment scheme.

Myself, or other users involved in the A-Class review coordination, can probably complete other things which need to be fixed based on this (rather drastic) change. If needed, a bot can probably fix current article assessments to use any new system.

Current categories would remain unchanged, except for renaming all "FA-Class tulips articles" and "GA-Class tulips articles" to "Featured tulips articles" and "Good tulips articles," respectively. All articles currently in the FA and GA categories should, in theory, be migrated to the B- and A-Class categories, although they will still be present in the Good and Featured cats, too. If additional consensus beyond 5-6 people is needed for this change, a separate proposal can be created for wider community review.

Thank you for your consideration of this topic. -[[User:Drilnoth|Drilnoth]] ([[User talk:Drilnoth|talk]]) 03:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:Why don't we hold off on something like this until some things are decided, based on Kirill's comments here: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group]] -'''[[User:MBK004|MBK]]'''_{[[User talk:MBK004|004]]} 05:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:Indeed. While this is an interesting proposal, the change, as noted above, would be drastic and affect the entire encyclopedia and the work involved would be phenomenal. So we'd need to be sure that this had strong consensus and all ramifications had been considered. I would expect at least an [[WP:RfC|RfC]] to be conducted before a change like this was implemented. [[User:Msgj|Martin]]^{[[User talk:Msgj|Msgj]]} 07:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::''"If additional consensus beyond 5-6 people is needed for this change..."'' Given that the last time a change to the assessment scale was proposed, the consensus of over ''two hundred and fifty'' editors was barely considered sufficient, to suggest that such a phenomenal change should go ahead based on such a tiny consensus is ludicrous. There is a ''massive'' amount of work involved with implementing this change, even more than for C-Class. That work can be done silently, but it cannot be done lightly. Let's see mockups, let's see concrete proposals and, most of all, let's see wide community participation rather than closed off-wiki discussion. Policy is not made on IRC. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 11:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay; just thought I'd bring it up now. Once the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group|Coodrinator's working group]] is up and running and both this and A-Class is being discussed by more projects, I'll probably write up a more full proposal for {{tl|CENT}}. Thanks! -[[User:Drilnoth|Drilnoth]] ([[User talk:Drilnoth|talk]]) 14:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Taskforce quality categorization broken for Template:WikiProject Gender Studies ==

I followed all of the instructions here to add quality categorization for the Feminist Task Force into {{tl|WikiProject Gender Studies}}, but for some reason it isn't working. Instead of adding categories such as [[:Category:FA-class Feminist Task Force articles]] to the talk pages, it's adding generic categories like [[:Category:FA-class]]. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 21:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:I've reverted {{tl|WikiProject Gender Studies}} for now since it was causing so many problems. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 21:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::You have to set the TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT parameter as well. I have done it for you. You now need to create these categories. Regards, [[User:Msgj|Martin]]^{[[User talk:Msgj|msgj]]} 22:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Thanks! Someone should probably add mention of that to the instructions here. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Something along the lines of ''"TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT (Required) – the assessment category to be used for the taskforce-specific quality and importance assessments."''?? <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 23:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)