Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/June 2007: Difference between revisions
Content deleted Content added
m cat |
m ROBOT: Template subst per WP:SUBST |
||
Line 19:
*Hopefully the new {{tl|Chabad-stub}} will reduce the load a little (does this cover Hasidic dynasties?), as would removing the extra stub from the synagogue stubs and moving the -bio- and -org- stubs into their correct subcategories. A very rough estimate based on one column of {{cl|Judaism stubs}} suggests that would remove about 25% of the stubs. Over 200 year articles do exist, though, so {{cl|Hebrew year stubs}} sounds like a very good idea. Hopefully between th the sorting and year subcat the main {{cl|Judaism stubs}} can be reduced to about 500 stubs. A {{tl|Judaism-school-stub}} might also be worth considering, by the looks of it. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 23:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
**There's already an upmerged {{tl|Yeshiva-stub}}, though if I understand the intended scope correctly, it doesn't cover all Jewish schools (i.e., not "day schools"). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===fungus subtypes===
Line 28:
*'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 02:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' [[User:Million Moments|Million_Moments]] 08:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Austria-geo sub-types===
Line 42:
**That's all. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 02:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
Line 57:
Amy Adolph 18:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
*This page is not the place to request the creation of stub articles, which is what you seem to be proposing. <span style="font-family:cursive">[[User:Caerwine|Caerwine]]</span> [[User_talk:Caerwine|<small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines</small>]] 20:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of sub cats of {{Cl|Company stubs}}===
Line 69:
[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 14:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*No reason these can't be speedied. (Well, unless resolution of nouns v. adjectives for such cases is likely in the next five days.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Upper Austria geography stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
After some manual sorting the upmerged template crept up to 59, so I've speedily given it its own category. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:39, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|California school stubs}} subtypes===
{{sfp create}}
Over 800; I'm guessing we want to split by counties and/or region, say on the lines of the geo-stubs (so likely starting with SoCal). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 22:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Swedish sports venue stubs}}===
Line 86:
:Sounds ''jättebra''. '''Support''' [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] <sup>[[User_talk:Valentinian|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Valentinian|C]]</sup> 11:39, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|compilation album stubs}} subtypes===
{{sfp create}}
Over 800; precedent would be to split by decade of release. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 21:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|defensive back stubs}} subtypes===
Line 97:
Just over 800; we could split this up into more specific positions (cornerbacks and safeties), but I'm guessing we more likely want to split by decade of birth, per the recent offensive line re-split. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 21:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support''' decade of birth as per offensive line split and others that have been proposed and yet to be acted upon. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 12:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|United Kingdom charity stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
UK orgs are oversized; this looks like a plausible place to start. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 23:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|music-event-stub}}===
Line 108:
To cover concerts, tours, festivals, etc, of which there are quite a few in music stubs sitting there with nowhere to go. Not sure what the category would be named though. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 01:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
*Sounds very plausible to me. As the permcat is {{cl|music events}}, I'll go so far as to suggest {{cl|music event stubs}}. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 02:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Cricket templates and stubs===
Line 128:
::Jamaica is well sorted in the sports category, with footy and athletics categories. Most of the exisiting stubs in "Jamaica-bio-stub" are sportspeople and the 70 + cricketers seem to be mostly stubs, so I'd suggest an upmerged stub for now with the likelihood of a category needed in the near future. While I'm here, can someone tell me why cricketer categories are mostly "foo cricketers" not "fooian cricketers"?--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|Thomas.macmillan]] 14:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:::An example should make the reason for that clear - [[Tony Greig]] was born in South Africa, but played cricket for England. Therefore he's South African, but an England cricketer. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 23:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Further split of {{tl|Hoops-bio-stub}}===
Line 135:
*Ooops, just discovered {{tl|US-women-hoops-bio-stub}}--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|Thomas.macmillan]] 23:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===de upmerged templates===
Line 145:
*Would also seem speediable. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Speedy. There is no need to seek approval for the creation of categories, if size is the only reason behind an upmerge. Just my 2 cents. [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] <sup>[[User_talk:Valentinian|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Valentinian|C]]</sup> 16:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of Brazil-bio-stub===
Line 152:
*Stitch in time... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
**Another useful template may be athletics (around 25 articles last time I checked).[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 08:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
=== {{tl|Brazil-musician-stub}} ===
{{sfp create}}
StubSense claims there is almost 100 possibilities, suggest creating upmerged template to get exact count and option for category ({{cl|Brazilian musician stubs}}) if count reaches 60. [[User:Monni1995|Monni]] 16:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===US-tv-prog subcats by decade===
Line 206:
:...so I propose a {{tl|news-tv-prog-stub}} and maybe a {{tl|sport-tv-prog-stub}}, although I don't see that in the list. Maybe upmerged {{tl|talk-tv-prog-stub}} and {{tl|game-tv-prog-stub}}. Any takers? [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 05:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::Me, for one. Sports isn't on the list because I once ''again'' didn't pick a general enough route: there's 46 under {{cl|sports television}}, though, so that sounds very plausible, too. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 13:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of {{Cl|American football stubs}}===
Line 213:
:After a recount we do have enough for a {{Cl|American football draft stubs}} again fed by which ever is deemed more acceptable {{Tl|AmericanFootball-draft-stub}} or {{Tl|Amfoot-draft-stub}}
::The main template in the parent is {{tl|Americanfootball-stub}}, so these should follow suit. Strong support on the first, and milder support on the second, BTW. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 01:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|Producer-stub}}===
Line 221:
: I looked for it. I guess it's listed under films. Well in that case, maye adding a tv-producer-stub would be helpful. [[User:Kc12286|kc12286]] 04:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
*We have just created {{tl|US-tv-producer-stub}}; are there any other nationalities big enough to split? Or enough among the other nationalities to merit a general {{tl|tv-producer-stub}}? [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 17:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|2000s Japanese single stubs}}===
Line 228:
*As I understand things, the Japanese music scene is separate from that in the United States. I need a new stub category for an article on the A&M single "Reimy - Speed of Light" on which I am still gathering data (some awaiting translation from ja.Wikipedia.org). Recommend, as an alternate, '''Category:Japanese song stubs'''. - [[User:B.C.Schmerker|B.C.Schmerker]] 04:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
**{{cl|Japanese song stubs}} looks sensible (and likely to be over threshold) to me, too. It might require a certain amount of double-stubbing rather than splitting, though. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 05:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Latin America and the Caribbean singer stubs}}===
Line 237:
**Oh, I'd missed that, sorry. But that's a) an upmerged template, that doesn't seem to have immediate prospects of categorical viability with that scope, b) at a level that doesn't correspond to any permcat, and c) is at the ''third'' level of the UN geoscheme: which indicates to me that it's not the right way of tagging such articles, in any respect. The question remains, do we want to follow the UN geoscheme, or not? (At least in cultural and human geography matters: if this were a geological type, that'd be a different matter.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
*** {{tl|SouthAm-singer-stub}} does have ~50 incoming links, so taking count that not all country-specific permanent categories have been sorted yet, there is chance that remaining ~10 will come eventually. [[User:Monni1995|Monni]] 05:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|economics and finance book stubs}}===
Line 243:
{{cl|Non-fiction book stubs}} are still oversized; {{cl|business books}}, {{cl|finance books}} and {{cl|economics books}} seem to disappear up their own fundaments in a category cycle, so pick your take for a suitable category name. Population of 72, by my count. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 02:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Works for me'''. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 03:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
Line 250:
Surprised we don't have this one already. At any rate, parent is now Officially Big, 141 permcat-based possibilities for this. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 05:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 04:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Greater Vancouver Regional District geography stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
BC-geo-stubs are oversized, splitting by regional district seems the obvious thing to do. 40 on the basis of just double-stubbing. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 04:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|television documentary stubs}}===
Line 262:
*I'll tackle this later in the week, after I wrestle US-tv-prog-stub to the ground. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 18:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
**Have begun with {{tl|bio-documentary-stub}}; more to come. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 04:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Fire Equiptment/Alarms stub===
Line 271:
That is not it. I mean Sirens, Horns and commercial fire alarms. For ex see [[notifier]]{{unsigned|Thedjatclubrock}}
*[[Notifier]] is a company and would be sorted under some type of company stub. Under {{cl|Fire detection and alarm}} there are only 14 articles; if I go up the hierarchy I only see maybe twice that number under the whole umbrella of {{cl|Fire protection}} and its sub-cats. If there is an associated WikiProject, 30+ stubs is the lowest number at which a stub template is considered; if not, 60+. Until those numbers can be reached I see no need for anything more specific than {{tl|firefighting-stub}}. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 04:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Australian sport stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
Australia stubs are oversized, this looks like the most coherent group to split out, with 58 in the {{cl|sport in Australia}} permcat tree. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 03:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Radio Presenter stubs}}===
{{sfp nocreate}}
{{unsigned|124.180.204.52}}
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Seine-et-Marne geography stubs}}===
Line 294:
:::::::Strange - looks to me like a "yes" on that one. They are articles about roads. Those articles are stubs. It doesn't matter whether those roads are called streets, or that they are in Paris or anywhere else - the fact is that they are, by definition, road stubs. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 08:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Strange indeed. Have you actually looked at the contents of those articles, or are you just taking it as axiomatic that anything with (in this case), "Avenue", "Boulevard", "Passage", "Place", "Quai" or "Rue" in the title ''must'' be a "road transport" article, most usefully expanded by "roadfan" types, and horribly mis-sorted if tagged alongside "neighbourhoods of Paris" types of article (to say nothing of other things that tend to get tagged with -geo-, especially when there's no other regional type to be had). Or is the error mine in assuming that there's some chance of you taking utility into account (kinda why we're bothering to do this in the first place), as opposed to essentially vacuous ontological arguments? [[User:Alai|Alai]] 16:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of {{Tl|England-footy-midfielder-stub}} and defendesr and strikers===
{{sfp create}}
Different shaped ball same solution by decade of birth split Defender and Midifelders are over 700 and strikers are just shy of 600 (stitch in time) nb goalkeepers are way off at less than 300 and not worth splitting yet.[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 23:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Electronic sports stubs}}===
Line 309:
**Ah, I understand much better now. Thank you. Yeah it does seem to be kept too big a secret! Maybe it should be more obvious somewhere? [[User:Digx|Digx]] 20:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
***I recently added a Big Old Link at the top of every WPSS page. *sigh* [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 21:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{Tl|Lithuania-footy-bio-stub}}===
Line 315:
Upmerged template with over 60 articles. Suggest speedy create cat.[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 11:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
*Agree with suggestion. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|geology stubs}} subcats===
Line 330:
:What is the outcome of this proposal? Or is it waiting someone to create templates? [[User:Solarapex|Solarapex]] 15:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::Basically was just in the Not Done Yet file. (Actual closure isn't really necessary here (just very handy for housekeeping purposes), since no admin action is required, and the process isn't supposed to the ''that'' formal (I think most people feel, at least).) OK, I've created these, and bot-populated them to the degree that seems reasonably safe. Please review those, and add to as seems good to you. (I can run another number-crunch after the next db dump to see what the biggest unsplit remainder is, with a view to further sub-types, but the dump cycle seems to have gone flakey in the extreme, so I can't really say when that'll be.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 22:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===US schools by state===
Line 346:
****...and I always thought that referred to someone's name :) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 00:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
***** :O !! :P [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 17:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===US radio stations by state===
{{sfp create}}
Line 359:
All are currently populated from double-upmerged templates, so again I'm inclined to speedy these. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 20:56, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
*Again '''Speedy''' Support. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 21:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===European actor subcats===
{{sfp create}}
I've been creating a number of upmerged stub templates for European actors, but two of them are now at exactly 60, so no longer need to be: {{tl|Denmark-actor-stub}} and {{tl|Spain-actor-stub}}. I propose to create cats fairly speedily. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 18:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy''' support. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 21:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
=== Personality & Preference Inventory===
Line 370:
Can't find it and not sure how to put the info across as an NPOV. Will suggest stub. Can anyone help? <br />[[User:AVISSER|Cookie Monster]] 10:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not quite sure what, if anything, this has to do with proposing stub templates or categories, which is what this page is for. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 00:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|Ancient-Euro-bio-stub}}===
Line 385:
:::'''Support''' per nom and the image of the Thracian gold mask is fine. I presume the category name (when we have 60 stubs) will be {{cl|Ancient European people stubs}} ? [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] <sup>[[User_talk:Valentinian|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Valentinian|C]]</sup> 07:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
::::In the meantime, the 'Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub' seems to have been transformed by [[User:Amalas]] into 'Ancient-Thrace-stub' (displaying however the former text "Ancient Thracians biographical article"); subject closed or what? [[User:Apcbg|Apcbg]] 19:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Anime and manga -- do-over===
Line 415:
**We don't have any film stub types that use release format (i.e. direct to video); I think just {{tl|anime-film-stub}} would work for our current purposes -- if necessary. There are only 2 pages of {{cl|Anime films}}. Any OVA can be given the category of {{cl|Direct-to-video films}} as well. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 19:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
***I've gone ahead and done this, with an initial bot-population on as conservative a basis as I could manage. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 04:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|fungal plant disease stubs}}, and such like===
{{sfp top|do not create; see further proposals at the end of June}}
Line 429:
*Assuming this would be {{tl|fungus-disease-stub}}/{{cl|Category:Fungal plant pathogen and disease stubs}}, would this help diminish the humongous {{tl|fungus-stub}}s? Or are they currently all for fungi & not diseases? [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 16:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
**Not very much, since the trouble is they're almost ''all'' fungal plant diseases, so it'd be instantly oversized itself. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 16:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of {{tl|mil-stub}}===
Line 435:
Mil-stub is 5 pages and needs a split. {{tl|Asia-mil-stub}}, {{tl|Africa-mil-stub}}, {{tl|SouthAm-mil-stub}} would be a good beginning and could also be the parent cat's to the existing x-mil-stub. Also, a {{tl|country-mil-stub}} would be useful.--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|Thomas.macmillan]] 21:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support''' the continent splits (plus, if deemed useful, simular for Oceania, CentralAm, Caribbean and MEast). Not so sure about the country-mil-stub, though - what would that be used for? If simply "Military of Foo"-type articles, wouldn't they be better simply given their respective continental-mil-stub? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 23:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|pharmacology-stub}} subtypes===
Line 447:
*{{cl|antihypertensive agent stubs}} 62
:'''Support'''. Monoclonal antibodies in particular would benefit from subsorting. I presume {{tl|antimicrobial-stub}} would apply to antifungals, antiparasitics etc. [[User:Fvasconcellos|Fvasconcellos]]<small> ([[User talk:Fvasconcellos|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fvasconcellos|c]])</small> 21:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|US-rail-stub}} subtypes===
Line 462:
:::It would be especially useful to split out the paper railroads since I imagine that they are most likely to remain stubby and provide the worst inflation to the numbers. [[User:Mangoe|Mangoe]] 16:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be OK with me if it works, but there's no {{cl|paper railroads}}, or any other permcat with that scope that I can see, so I can neither count nor bot-sort those. If anyone wants to take care of those by hand... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 02:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Chinese scientist stubs}}===
Line 468:
Touch and go at 58, but much needed, as the China-bios are still growing: almost at 1000. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 03:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:'''Support.''' [[User:Aelfthrytha|Aelfthrytha]] 04:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Federalist Papers stubs}}===
Line 477:
:::Its a case where A being a subcat of B and B a subcat of C both make sense despite A not being a subcat of C in any way shape or form. That happens with cats. Since there won't ever be any more Federalist papers written, I'm dubious about a stub type for them. It probably would be more profitable to go with {{tl|US-federal-gov-stub}} / {{cl|United States Government stubs}} (note the capitalization of Government) with parent {{cl|Government of the United States}} and move the existing {{tl|US-gov-stub}} / {{cl|United States government stubs}} up in parentage to {{cl|Government in the United States}} as there are a number of State and local government stubs in United States government stubs that strictly speaking shouldn't be under the current scope. <span style="font-family:cursive">[[User:Caerwine|Caerwine]]</span> [[User_talk:Caerwine|<small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines</small>]] 04:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::::That's what I meant by the "Chinese whispers" effect, and yes, it happens with cats: an annoying amount. I agree that the FPs aren't the most obvious stub cat scope, but if these are "permastubs", at least they're not cluttering up the parents, and if they do get expanded, they can be upmerged. However, I'd certainly also be in favour of splitting up these on fed/state/local grounds, whether with one, two or three such local categories. It also looks to me that {{cl|United States state government stubs}} would be viable, with 74 articles at the most conservative estimates. (i.e. current US-govs in the immediate subcats of {{cl|State governments of the United States}}). I'd also agree with your re-parenting suggestion (what an entirely inobvious and opaque distinction in category names!). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 15:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|United Kingdom children's writer stubs}}===
Line 483:
Oversized parent, 64 of them are in the "children's writers" tree, and no other "by genre" cat. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 19:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 22:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Nyeusigrube stub===
Line 490:
*As there are fewer than 20 articles in the entire {{cl|Nyeusigrube}}, I think this is not necessary yet. Please use {{tl|ya-novel-stub}} and {{tl|lit-char-stub}} until there are more than 30 stub articles that would apply (per the much-neglected stub guidelines). [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 17:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
**Or if there's an anticipated greater future need, create an upmerged template for now, and see how it goes. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:26, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Sumo biography stubs}}===
Line 497:
*Certainly at 65 stubs sumo-bio-stub is viable now, irrespective of whether there's a wikiproject. As far as sumo-stub is concerned, how many stubs are there likely to be about sumo that aren't biographies? Given that there's a wikiproject and this would be its primary stub, if there are 30 it seems a good idea. Even if there are slightly fewer than that, given that it's got a ready-made subcategory. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 01:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
*If the numbers are utterly paltry, there's the option of creating it and upmerging the sumo-bios to "make up the numbers", for now. But if there's anything like a worthwhile number, I think 10-20+WPJ+subcat would be OK. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
=== Audio Equiptment===
Line 503:
Is there a stub on Musical equiptment? Such as speakers/mixers etc. Can this stub apply to companys such as [[denon]].{{unsigned|Thedjatclubrock}}
:{{tl|tech-company-stub}} would work for [[Denon]]. For musical instruments try {{tl|musical-instrument-stub}}. BTW, there is an exhaustive list of stub types you can browse or search at [[WP:STUBS]]. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 20:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Jazz musicians, and subcats===
Line 513:
*{{cl|United States jazz pianist stubs}} 56
{{cl|Jazz stubs}} is now oversized, and somewhat weirdly so, since lots of them are bios. Undersorting to {{cl|United States jazz musician stubs}} is inflating the above numbers somewhat, but even so... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 05:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|GB-MP-stub}} / [[:Category:Great Britain MP stubs (1707-1800)]] ===
{{sfp top|create as GreatBritain-MP-stub}}
Line 533:
*While I am in general quite doubtful of the value of stub categorisation, this seems a very logical split of a large stub category. I agree with BrownHairedGirl that there is no reason for it to create confusion, as the exact text of the stub note can make it clear which period the particular Parliament was existence for. There will be some MPs from the Parliament of Great Britain who also served in the Parliament of the United Kingdom, but a large majority of politicians will have served in only one. In addition, the by-party split is less useful for the period of the Parliament of Great Britain, as many politicians were non-aligned, and those groupings which did exist were generally much looser than those of the late nineteenth century, let alone the present day. I '''support''' {{tl|GreatBritain-MP-stub}} as a logical subdivision. [[User:Warofdreams|Warofdreams]] ''[[User talk:Warofdreams|talk]]'' 21:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
*[[:Category:Great Britain MP stubs (1707-1800)]] and {{tl|GreatBritain-MP-stub}} now created. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 10:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Strigiformes stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
Birds are oversized, though at least not as much as they seemed to be last time. Despite my earlier guesswork, it's actually a yet different bird order that breaks 60; Charadriiformes and Procellariiformes are also very close. However, given the seemingly generally accepted pattern, I'm inclined to speedy this. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 03:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|visual art book stubs}}===
Line 547:
***And double strong support on that one too. Keeps me off the streets and out of the bars...! [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 22:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
****OK, it's a done deal. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 07:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|United States media company stubs}}===
Line 554:
*Already listed with 3 or 4 others on the to do list . [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 11:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
**D'oh. Forgot to check for redlink-links... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 14:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of {{Tl|linebacker-stub}} and {{tl|runningback-stub}}===
Line 561:
*Support this and below, per prodigious quantity of precedents (and all bot-populable, to boot). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 00:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:*I'd be very grateful if someone could popoulate these by bot, my knowledge of that side of things is poor, I will go through and try to pick up anything the bot misses, otherwise it will be a long hard slog. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 11:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|political term stubs}}===
Line 570:
::I'd suggest paralleling geo-term-stub and the like, and making it {{tl|poli-term-stub}}. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 02:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|water mould stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
AKA the Oomycetes, AKA the Oomycota, this rogue phylum seems to be currently sorted with the humungous fungus-stubs, which according to the article, they're not, which seems a bit of a problem. I've no strong feelings about the name, though it seems a little bass-ackwards that the article's at the taxonomic name, and the category at the common name. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 06:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|ligament stubs}}===
Line 582:
:Any such stibs should be marked with {{tl|musculoskeletal-stub}} not {{tl|anatomy-stub}}, but with those numbers, if you want to create a ligament-stub, I'd have no complaints. <span style="font-family:cursive">[[User:Caerwine|Caerwine]]</span> [[User_talk:Caerwine|<small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines</small>]] 21:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'd forgotten about those... and I'm a little boggled to see they're over 600 already. (Medics are evidently very good at ''starting'' stubs.) Doubtless we'll be splitting those further soon enough. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 03:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Largest unsplit <country>-geo-stub type...===
{{sfp top|create Vojvodina t/c, hold off on Kosovo for now}}
Line 593:
****I created {{tl|Vojvodina-stub}}; should I hold off on {{tl|Vojvodina-geo-stub}} or would that not be viable yet? [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 20:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
*****There's plenty for Vojvodina-geo- -- over 400, so probably won't be long before we're re-splitting them, come to that. But I've no idea about the "generals", though it sounds plausible if it also had the geos and a child. (I certainly wouldn't want to end up double-tagging that geos with Serbia-geo-stub and Vojvodina; that'd be really painful.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
Line 602:
*{{cl|Santa Fe Province geography stubs}} 64
Parent also north of 700. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 08:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Asian academic biography stubs}}===
Line 611:
*** I agree to a point but are you suggesting creating a template for each asian country, I would suggest that they would be useful for the larger/better covered countries but for the small poorly covered countries it may be better to have an asia template, are we really going to need a burma-academic or yeman-academic templates for 1 or 2 people as an example. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 07:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
****I agree that it gets to be diminishing returns after a certain point. Though other than the effort of creating them, I don't think there's much of a downside. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 04:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===More geology subtypes===
{{sfp create}}
Line 617:
*{{cl|Petrology stubs}} 56
I held off on these earlier since I wasn't quite clear how they might overlap with the first three, but evidently there's at least the above numbers remaining, by direct categorisation alone. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 06:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|cereal disease stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
This looks to be be viable, and will help somewhat with the (rather vast) plant disease stubs. Much as I'd like to propose numerous other such subcats, the trouble is that for most of these articles, there's no information at all as to what it is they infect -- not by category, not in an infobox, not in the text. Until such time as a subject-knowledgeable editor adds such... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 17:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Ascomycetes stubs}} subcats===
{{sfp create}}
You wouldn't think it now, but this'll be oversized by the time {{cl|fungus stubs}} is re-sorted it will be; so better, I think, to create subcats now. In the first instance, I suggest by class, though even some of those will be pretty large, so into orders wouldn't be out of order, either. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 06:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Electronic albums: good news, bad news===
Line 636:
:::Mmmm. And I suppose there's also be the possiible confusion of Euro-2000-techno with a stub for Eurodisco music. Sigh. Any other possibilities? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 00:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::::There's been some support over at the WPJ for some-or-other sub-genre sub-cats, plus talk of tag-vetting and possible merging. I'll see if I can find the least-worst option as far as sub-genre overlap is concern. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{tl|France-reli-struct-stub}}===
Line 654:
::::::::Oh, OK - thanks for explaining it a bit more. (As a matter of fact I DO think and edit in terms of religious and secular buildings as groups, but I got used long ago on Wikipedia to being a minority of one). I'm happy to settle for France-church-stub. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] 22:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I won't claim to have done a survey, so you could have told me the opposite, and I'd have been none the wiser. :) Perhaps create a category for the churches, and a double-upmerged stub template for the "misc. religious", until they're large enough for a parent? [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|Conservative MP (UK) stubs}} by DoB===
Line 669:
:Typo corrected in above commentL I meant to say that {{tl|Conservative-Scotland-MP-stub-MP-stub}} should be either renamed or deleted, but that it might be useful to create a {{tl|Scottish-Unionist-MP-stub}} and populate it properly. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 02:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
*I have had no reply to this for over a week, so I have made a compromise edit: I have changed both [{{tl|Conservative-Scotland-MP-stub}} and {{cl|Scottish Conservative and Unionist MP stubs}} to include both the [[Unionist Party (Scotland)]] and the [[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservative Party]]. That allows the category to include Conservative and/or Unionist MPs since the [[Unionist Party (Scotland)]] was founded in 1912, but not those from before. Still not ideal, because it omits a century of Scottish Conservative MPs, but at least it's a bit better than before. -[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 23:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Split of {{tl|Portugal-geo-stub}}===
Line 705:
::Possibly, but the borders don't seem to match up very well, unfortunately. Let's see whether any get to 60 by themselves first - we can always change the pointing on the templates afterwards. As for the redirects, yeah,w ell, otherwise we'd have the usual arguments :). BTW, before making these it'll be worthwhile checking that these names are unique and that we don't run into a region of Brazil called Vila Real or similar problem. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 09:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I wouldn't go so far as to say they match up ''well'', but they seem to do so enough for at least some upmerging, and my guess is to the point of numerical viability. But no hurry. On uniqueness, I just generally go by what's camped out on the permcat name first (or article name, if there's no permcat). If that's not been disambiguated, then it may not be necessary (or it may be we have wacky permcats -- it's been known to happen...). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 17:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Miscellaneous double-stubbing mashup===
Line 723:
*Malaysia's been long overdue for its own struct stub template at least, and now a category seems a good move - and like similar struct stubs, its parents should be {{cl|Asian building and structure stubs}} and {{cl|Malaysia stubs}} (not {{cl|Malaysia geography stubs}}, since buildings aren't normally grouped in with geo-stubs). I'd be inclined to put the UK hospitals in {{cl|Hospital stubs}}, {{cl|United Kingdom medical organisation stubs}} ''and'' {{cl|United Kingdom building and structure stubs}}, since the articles are likely to be at least in part about the buildings themselves, much like with theatre stubs and museum stubs. Yes to all the others (72 Zimbabwean sculptor stubs? Whoda thought...?), though I'd ask whether the NYC and Pittsburgh geo-stubs are likely to affect the way the rest of the state-geo-stubs are likely to be split in future... will it make for problems with Penn and NYState later? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 00:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
**I forgot the ob. whoda thought?: thanks for correcting that omission. :) I shouldn't have said "parentage", I really meant "constituents of the double-stubbing" (though in most cases they're the same thing). I don't think splitting by city is going to be a problem; elsewhere we've split by county, but then we tend to end up upmerging them to μSAs, MSAs, CSAs, unofficial regions with articles defining their scope, or totally made up ones. Cities of significant size will invariably correspond to (the population centres of) *SAs, so they can just be made a subcat. (Chicago and Chicagoland are already done this way, for example.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|dramatist and playwright stubs}}===
Line 729:
I don't have an exact count for this (though I suspect it's close to threshold just from the UK), but surely we should have this given the two existing national D&P stub types. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 20:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 17:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|legal term stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
At least 90 of them; parent is of course very oversized. Existing subcat {{cl|Latin legal stubs}} (should be "phrases"). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 18:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|military decoration stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
This looks viable as a subcat of {{cl|order, decoration, and medal stubs}}, and more to the point will help get rid of a few from {{cl|military stubs}}, which despite some recent shrinkage is still oversized. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 22:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
Line 746:
The {{cl|education stubs}} are long-standing oversized, and the corresponding permcats hurt my eyes and brain. But this looks a clear-cut case: 70 of these. I wonder if we shouldn't also consider an {{tl|edu-bio-stub}}; the number don't look tremendous, but it'd also be a parent to existing cats (some of which I can't help but wonder if there's over-sorting to). [[User:Alai|Alai]] 15:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support''' both per nom. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] <small><font color="green">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small> 16:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|telecommunications term stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
Oversized parent, 54 of these on the basis of catting; shouldn't be hard to find a few more. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 06:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|2000s thriller film stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
'00s drama films is oversized, this looks like the most promising possible new subcat... but only 43 are catted that way. Anyone think they can drag up another 17? (I could start with populating an upmerged template if that would help.) [[User:Alai|Alai]] 01:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
==={{cl|United States opera singer stubs}}===
{{sfp create}}
Seems to be 60-odd of these. The opera singers aren't in urgent need of being split, but the US-singer-stubs are, and this would take care of a handful of them, at least. [[User:Alai|Alai]] 22:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
===Arena Football===
Line 767:
I don't know if this counts as a proposal but, I would like to propose we do something with {{Tl|ArenaFootballLeague-stub}}. It was nominated for discussion a while back and was kept upmerged to {{Cl|American football stubs}}. Having looked at the what links here for the template and the discussion it appears that it is to be used on players. I propose this is upmerged to {{Cl|American football biography stubs}} or as it has over 30 articles and a wikiproject given its own category. I have to admit not knowing much about this sport so I don't know which would be best. If this needs posting elsewhere let me know and i will move it. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] 15:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Own category is probably the best option. You could also create a separate -bio- template... [[User:Alai|Alai]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>
| |||