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:::Seems to be fixed. The templates just need purging. Thanks --[[User:Anypodetos|ἀνυπόδητος]] ([[User talk:Anypodetos|talk]]) 15:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Right, thank you. I never thought of that. –[[User:Holt|Holt]] <small>([[User talk:Holt|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Holt|C]])</small> 16:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
== Playing well with WPBS? ==
Why doesn't this banner seem to play well with {{tl|WPBS}}? You can see what I mean at [[Talk:Mario Capecchi]]: the projects using WPBannerMeta display on one line, but the ones using this template are awkwardly formatted (off-center and on two lines). [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 20:28, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:They all look exactly the same to me. What browser/OS are you using? [[User:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#617c58;">§hep</span>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:#617c58;"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 21:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
::The only issue I see on that page is that the project title for WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology is wrapped onto two lines (that's using IE7). [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 21:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:::That might be your resolution??, I see one complete line (IE7, 1440x900). [[User:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#4863A0;">§hep</span>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:#4863A0;"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 21:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I see what he means. I'm using IE7 (1680x1050), and the Biography banner (non-WPBannerMeta) is noticeably shorter vertically, as well as centered differently from all the other banners (WPBannerMeta). [[User:DeFaultRyan|DeFaultRyan]] ([[User talk:DeFaultRyan|talk]]) 22:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Perhaps; my resolution is 1024x768. I don't see the issue with the Biography banner, but when I look at a page using {{tl|WikiProjectBanners}} ([[Talk:Augusto Pinochet]], for example) the meta and non-meta banners have a slightly different width. Is this a related issue? [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 23:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:I see this issue in Safari 3.2.1 on Mac OS X 10.5.6, regardless of browser window width. I do not see the issue in Firefox 3.0.7, Flock 1.2.7, Camino 1.5.2, or Camino 1.6.6. So, the issue seems to be in IE7 and Safari. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="green">日本穣</font>]]<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</sup></small> 00:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:: I see the same thing without javascript. It's probably in the code in /core that displays the project name. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 02:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC) <br>[[Image:Bannerissue2.png]]
:::I'm just speculating here but in the header section there is <tt><nowiki><tr><td colspan="2" width="100%"></td>{{td}}</tr></nowiki></tt> before the main row and <tt><nowiki><tr>{{td}}{{td}}{{td}}</tr></nowiki></tt> afterwards which results in conflicting table column width declarations. Perhaps the <tt><nowiki><tr>{{td}}{{td}}{{td}}</tr></nowiki></tt> could be changed to <tt><nowiki><tr><td colspan="2" width="100%"></td>{{td}}</tr></nowiki></tt> -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 11:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Gosh that screenshot looks terrible! What browser did you say you are using? WhatamIdoing and Nihonjoe: is this the same issue that you were seeing? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yikes, that is awful! Ditto the "what browser" question; also, how did you get that display without JavaScript? Or did you enable JS temporarily to take the screenshot? <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 15:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Specific screenshot came from Safari, like Nihonjoe. Of course javascript was enabled for that. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 20:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, that is exactly what I'm seeing in the browsers mentioned above (well, I only use Safari, not IE7, but same thing as far as appearance). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="green">日本穣</font>]]<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</sup></small> 20:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
My comments:
# ''the projects using WPBannerMeta display on one line, but the ones using this template are awkwardly formatted'' - I don't understand this. Is there a "not" missing here somewhere? Otherwise what does "this template" refer to?
# I can't see any awkward formatting on [[Talk:Mario Capecchi]], on FF3 or IE7. Perhaps a screenshot would help here.
# I can see the slight height difference when the banners are nested. I don't think there is no reason to expect them to be the same as there is no "standard size". Which height do you prefer?
# I can see the slight width difference in IE7 when using WPB. But I think this issue is still being looked at (or needs to be) because there is no reason why the width of the banners should be so much less than the width of the shell anyway ...
— Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
For what it's worth, this is what I see on my screen:
<center>[[File:Bannerwrappingissue.png]]</center>
As I say, for me there is only the wrapping on the Molecular and Cellular Biology banner. No big deal; it looks as if there is enough room for it ''not'' to wrap, though. [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 10:47, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, looking at my screenshot again I can see there is a very slight difference in the height of Medicine & United States (meta) and Biography & Italy (non-meta). [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 12:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
::The reason the MCB banner wraps is because there's an invisible div floating to the left, approximately the same size and shape as the hide/show button on the right, to keep the headers centred. So consider that a 'feature'; it's certainly not something we can get rid of. The WPBM header row is actually explicitly padded (0.3em worth) which is the cause of the extra height in WPBM banners; obviously this is completely adjustable if people prefer slightly more compact display in WPBS. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 15:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I get something similarly ugly in [[Google Chrome]]: [[File:WPBannerMeta issue.png|750px|center]]
Any chance someone who knows the template better could get the WPBannerMeta-using banner (the first one) to have a title aligned more like the bespoke one (second), please? :o) — [[:en:User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]] ([[:en:User talk:OwenBlacker|Talk]]) 18:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, interesting. Now we have a specific browser I can start trying things. I see the difference in colour is due to a declaration in your monobook (I have something very similar myself); and the whitespace was just an extra linebreak in {{tlx|WikiProject Typography}}, now fixed. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 19:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm surprised that's what you're getting in IE7. Here's what I get: [[File:WPBanners (Capecchi).png|100px]], all nice and perfect. [[User:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#4c7d7e;">§hep</span>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:#4c7d7e;"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 18:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
*The other article talk listed above renders fine for me too. You're having severe problems though (banner discoloration, etc.) that might be your end? Have you tried purging the page/do other pages look normal? [[User:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#993300;">§hep</span>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:#993300;"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 18:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
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Ok, it seems the main problem is with a set of browsers including Safari and GoogleChrome, whereby the cell widths in the header sub-table are completely screwed over by something. Unfortunately I'm off on holiday in about an hour's time, so unless the random attempt I made in /core/sandbox worked first time, I'm out of this one for a week. But of course, that's why we gave Martin the admin bit <tt>:D</tt>...
One thing that I'm sure would be hugely helpful: can someone who's got one of the affected browsers temporarily put
<source lang=css>
#bodyContent * {border: 1px solid red !important;}
</source>
into their monobook.css and take another screenshot? As you might guess, that gives ''everything'' a red border, which makes it easy to see what's going on. We need to know if the issue is with the way the width is distributed between the three columns of the table, or if the table is not actually filling the entire header cell. Good luck! <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 21:47, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:[[:File:Wpbm redborders.png]], I think that screenshot is showing the correct things, right? On the left is Firefox, on the right Safari (looked the same as Chrome for me) '''[[user:chandler|chan]][[user talk:chandler|dler]] [[Special:Contributions/Chandler|·]]''' 17:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::I've just done some tests using Google Chrome & the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPBannerMeta/core/sandbox&diff=277605679&oldid=277605239 following change] will fix the issue. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 09:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:::There seems to be an extra line space occuring now (Firefox). Shall I revert? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, please do. Will have to have a look for some other option. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 10:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
== B-Class checklist icons ==
A matter of extreme triviality to be sure, but any thoughts on using [[:File:Green check.svg]] in place of [[:File:Orange check.svg]] in the checklist? It seems more logical to me in that green and red are typically associated with yes and no, and would be more consistant with the likes of {{tl|Tick}}. Plus it creates a better aesthetic in the banner, IMHO. :) [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 18:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:Changed it over. Looks nice! What do you think about the two new icons - for invalid parameter and not applicable? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! The tilde looks good; it would be nice to have an exclamation mark that was more visually consistant with the other icons, but I've had a look on Commons and there doesn't appear to be one. :( [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 23:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:::No I couldn't find one either. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop#B-Class checklist icons|We've got one now]]! :) [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 15:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's great. It's a little bit narrower than the others so the text doesn't align. I don't know if that matters though. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Fixed. Try using [[:File:Orange exclamation mark.svg]] in the banner. [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 17:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It looks very cool :) — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 18:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
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