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:::::Oh? "Some examples"? But only the ones that "some" editors think are important? Sorry, you either reference ALL of the conditions or none. I don't think it "works better" that way. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 21:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
::::::Or... those examples were there before. We reference all the conditions with ref tags; displaying them all out would be, IMO, pushing an anti-IBDP POV. — [[User:HelloAnnyong|'''<span style="color: #aaa">Hello</span><span style="color: #666">Annyong</span>''']] <sup>[[User_talk:HelloAnnyong|(say whaaat?!)]]</sup> 21:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
== Humorous interlude ==
:While doing some research, I came across the following passage in the preface of Alec Peterson’s book, ''Schools Across Frontiers'':
:“The breakthrough in the history of the IB, when it ceased to be a pipe-dream at the International School of Geneva and began to become a reality, came with a grant of $75,000 from the Twentieth Century Fund in 1965. The Fund commissioned Martin Mayer, whose book ''The Schools'' had caused quite a sensation in America, to produce a report (published by the Foundation under the title ''Diploma'' in 1968) on the feasibility of establishing a common curriculum and examination for international schools, which would be acceptable for entry to universities world-wide. ''Diploma'' still provides the only objective, though sometimes very critical description of the early days of the IB. In the course of a rapid tour, Martin visited the three leading schools concerned and consulted with the founder headmaster of Atlantic College, Desmond Hoare, the principal of UNIS (United Nations International School, New York), Desmond Cole, and the English headmaster of Ecolint (Geneva International School), Desmond Cole-Baker. When we first met in Geneva, Martin’s opening words were “How the hell did you get involved in this business if your name isn’t Desmond?”
:[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 20:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::Hahahaha - gee, no mention of Harpo? [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 20:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:::No mention of Harpo in this section. But, we now will have to include the other two Desmonds and Martin Mayer. I would love to read ''The Schools'' and ''Diploma'' as well. Anyone know where we can find them?
:::[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 21:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::::We will? Puhleeze. Discuss the ridiculous rhetoric-laden Leach quote, please. I think you can find something a little more succinct and descriptive of the overall nature of the diploma. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 21:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:::::I am sure that after five years of research you must have something succinct and descriptive of the IBDP.
:::::[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 21:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well that's pretty rude and snarky, LaMome. You see, unlike you, I'm not so rude as to simply go and delete the whole thing. I thought I'd give you the opportunity to discuss and select something that didn't reek of propaganda and empty rhetoric. I have no one to tag team you to avoid a 3RR, a ploy you know very well. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 21:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:::::::Initially Uncle G suggested the Leach quotation on the talkpage. I added it to the text without controversy; I removed from the text when it was questioned; and re-added to the text when we read the background histories and realized that Leach was notable. [[User:Truthkeeper88|Truthkeeper88]] ([[User talk:Truthkeeper88|talk]]) 21:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::ONY-Please explain how my comment was rude and snarky. I was giving you the opportunity to select and discuss something succinct and descriptive. I didn't delete the whole Leach quote, which was suggested by Uncle G and re-worded by TK. I believe it is still a work in progress, so why don't ''you'' add something here on the talk page as a possible replacement or addition to the Leach quote, instead of complaining about it all the time. I suggest you keep the conversation more focused on the article and less focused on what you believe to be the intentions of other editors. After almost a year of editing, you should know this by now. Apparently, you haven't learned your lesson, despite the numerous chances you've been given to improve your approach to editing articles and commenting on talk pages.
::::::::[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 22:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
A year, huh? Try four months. And why is it that a quote from someone who is clearly not '''notable''' in the Wikipedia sense of '''notable''' is allowed to stand as a "work in progress" despite criticism, yet something I add to the article immediately gets attacked and wiped? Can you say double-standard? Your gross exaggeration of my time editing thus far is ironically akin to IB's gross exaggerations about its programmes. Your condescending comment that I "haven't learned my lesson" is insulting. You weren't "giving me the opportunity to select and discuss" you were sniping at my comment that I have researched IB for 5 years and trying to get me to post a different quote for you to immediately attack. I had hoped to avoid further conflict by requesting that ''you'' and or/TK or others select something more representative, by a more notable figure, but instead you simply chose to defend how the objectionable quote got there, why it is still there and attack me further. Why don't you take your own advice and focus on the article instead of what you mistakenly believe my cognitive abilities to be? [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 10:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:According to the revision history statistics, your first edit was on 9/11/08.
:http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=IB+Diploma+Programme
:399 (207/192) ObserverNY 2008-09-11 12:36 2009-08-14 21:43
:[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 12:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::I don't consider that "real" editing - that was when I just happened by and tried to insert TAIB into the external links. I had no idea of the, uh, er, um, "anal qualities" of those who haunt this cyberspace regularly. Quite bizarre, actually. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 16:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IB_Diploma_Programme&diff=237698118&oldid=237697612
:::September 2008-UNESCO Peace education
:::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IB_Diploma_Programme&diff=299317888&oldid=299317019
:::June 2009-UNESCO Peace education
:::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IB_Diploma_Programme&diff=next&oldid=237698118
:::September 2008-failing conditions
:::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IB_Diploma_Programme&diff=next&oldid=308005434
:::August 2009-failing conditions
:::[[User:La mome|La mome]] ([[User talk:La mome|talk]]) 17:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::::OMG! Will ya look at THAT! I attempted to add TWO FACTS a year ago to the Wikipedia article! GASP! Obviously I paid it little mind until April of 2009 when I attempted to familiarize myself with the whole wondrous WikiWorld of whackos! I'm sorry I ever bothered because it really is quite addicting, as are many online forums. Thankfully work starts soon and I'll have little time for this nonsense. But you knock yourself out, LaMome. Cheers! [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 20:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
== Early history ==
In reading over the hideous Leach quote again, it dawned on me, why are you starting this section with quotes from Ian Hill? Ian Hill wasn't around back then. I think the entire section needs to be re-written. It reads horribly. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 23:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
:Uncle G explained why he wrote the section using Hill as the source. It's in the archived talk page. Perhaps you can ask his help in rewriting? [[User:Truthkeeper88|Truthkeeper88]] ([[User talk:Truthkeeper88|talk]]) 00:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::Uncle G went AWOL months ago. I don't need his help rewriting it. I am quite capable of re-writing it except you would fight whatever I wrote tooth and nail. [[User:ObserverNY|ObserverNY]] ([[User talk:ObserverNY|talk]]) 00:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
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