Talk:Ogg formats in HTML5: Difference between revisions

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:The idea is to avoid the current mess we're in regarding video on the Web. Beside Flash, you have Windows Media files, Quicktime files, Realvideo... Each requiring its own plugin/player, most of them from a specific vendor, and sometimes not easily available across OS. Ogg are the only open-source formats for multimedia files, and therefore suitable for implementation on every OS without vendor lock-in. But of course, Apple doesn't want people to move away from their proprietary Quicktime player which is currently installed on a majority of computer. Even if Quicktime is probably better than Theora in term of image quality, if it wasn't needed anymore for most video, their installed base would drop (remember, they tried to push Safari on Windows by including it by default in the Quicktime updater). [[User:Ksempac|Ksempac]] ([[User talk:Ksempac|talk]]) 09:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

:One other key issue that some people fail to take into consideration are the [[EULA]] requirements one must agree to in order to use a particular player. If a company that produces any of these players wants to make money from selling peoples personal information, and includes the right for them to do so in their EULA license that you MUST agree to in order to view their media format, then what option does the user have but to be denied access to the media they wish to see in order to protect their privacy?! THIS IS THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE OGG FORMAT! It is completely FREE from these restrictions! How will the robber barrons profit when everyone is using NON-proprietary media? Wikipedia is based upon [[Socialism]]. I think that the Web and the Internet standards in general should be also. Using proprietary formats doesn't live up to the standard of a free, non-propietary Internet. I included the actual full reference in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ogg_controversy&diff=309944097&oldid=309236912 my edit] in order to quell the misconception that the OGG standard was REQUIRED when it was merely SUGGESTED. [[Special:Contributions/97.126.100.51|97.126.100.51]] ([[User talk:97.126.100.51|talk]]) 09:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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== EULA Issues of Proprietary Software ==

:One other key issue that some people fail to take into consideration are the [[EULA]] requirements one must agree to in order to use a particular player. If a company that produces any of these media players or media player browser plugins wants to make money from selling peoples personal information, installing any manner of methods of spying on peoples files, communications, etc., and includes the right for them to do so in their vague or explicit EULA license that you MUST agree to in order to view their proprietary media format, then what option does the user have but to be denied access to the media they wish to see in order to protect their privacy?! THIS IS THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE OGG FORMAT! It is completely FREE from these restrictions! How will the robber barrons profit when everyone is using NON-proprietary media? It appears that Wikipedia is based upon a [[Socialism]] type of concept. IMHO, I think that the Web and the Internet standards in general should be also. Using proprietary formats doesn't live up to the standard of a free, non-propietary Internet. I included the actual full reference in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ogg_controversy&diff=309944097&oldid=309236912 my edit] in order to quell the misconception that the OGG standard was REQUIRED when it was merely SUGGESTED. NOTE: if you wish to see a really good example of how bad proprietary formats are at sharing information, simple load up a standard [[Debian]] Linux and use [[Iceweasel]] to web browse. Then, visit some pages such as [[YouTube]], [[MSNBC]], etc., and then navigate to their media sections. You will notice that very little, it any, of their media will be viewable in your browser. Lots of people do not know how to install software and browser plugins. [[Special:Contributions/97.126.100.51|97.126.100.51]] ([[User talk:97.126.100.51|talk]]) 09:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)