Talk:Internet Explorer box model bug: Difference between revisions

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I'm less interested in whether Bill's variation was a [[software bug|mistake]] than in how web designers can '''use''' the [[CSS box model]]. I'm even willing to help write an article about the [[box model]], and I've started a disambiguation page. --[[User:Ed Poor|Uncle Ed]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 17:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== Removal of referenced and sourced material ==
 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet_Explorer_box_model_variation&diff=315548386&oldid=313333045 This series of edits] by [[User:Ed Poor]] (also known as 'Uncle Ed' above) removed the following sourced statement and replaced it with a nicely deletable piece of [[WP:WEASEL|weasel wording]].
 
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The '''Internet Explorer box model bug''' is a [[software bug]] in the implementation of [[Cascading Style Sheets]] in earlier versions of [[Microsoft]]’s [[Internet Explorer]] [[web browser]] for [[Microsoft Windows]].<ref>{{cite book |title=HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS |last=Shafer |first=Dan |year=2005 |publisher=[[Sitepoint]] |___location=Melbourne |isbn=0-9579218-2-9 |pages=124 & Appendix C |url=http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css1/errata.php }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |title=The Zen of CSS Design |last=Shea |first=David |coauthors=Molly E. Holzschlag |year=2005 |publisher=Peachpit Press |___location=Berkeley |isbn=0321303474 |url=http://www.digital-web.com/articles/zen_of_css_design/ }}</ref><br/>
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Some software designers{{who}} have branded this a "[[software bug]]".<br/>
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No matter how long Ed has been editing WP, I propose that these edits are a clear reduction in the usefulness of this article. Where we once had two references to University-level textbooks on web technologies using an established piece of terminology and explaining it in the opening of this article, we now have mealy-mouthed weasel words that sound like a few designers were once a bit grumpy.
 
At the same time as he gutted the article of sourced content, he said it was going into [[CSS box model|another article]] that he was writing. At the moment that other article consists of "The CSS box model is essentially a box that wraps around HTML elements, and it consists of: margins, borders, padding, and the actual content." [1] (The quotes are his and are there). Nothing except this one links to the new article.
 
Oh, and he 'moved' this article too. All this with no warning, no discussion and no consensus. I'm not going to get into a 'move war', but I am going to revert these edits until we find out what his motivation and plan is, and what other contributors think of this plan. --[[User:Nigelj|Nigelj]] ([[User talk:Nigelj|talk]]) 19:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 
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