Talk:Ogg formats in HTML5: Difference between revisions

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One other key issue that some people fail to take into consideration are the [[EULA]] requirements one must agree in order to use a particular player. If a company that produces any of these media players or media player browser plugins wants to make money from selling peoples personal information, installing any manner of methods of spying on peoples files, communications, etc., and includes the right for them to do so in their vague or explicit EULA license that you MUST agree in order to view their proprietary media format, then what option does the user have but to be denied access to the media they wish to see in order to protect their privacy?! THIS IS THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE OGG FORMAT! It is completely FREE from these restrictions! How will the robber barrons profit when everyone is using NON-proprietary media? It appears that Wikipedia is based upon a [[Socialism]] type of concept. IMHO, I think that the Web and the Internet standards in general should be also. Using proprietary formats doesn't live up to the standard of a free, non-propietary Internet. I included the actual full reference in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ogg_controversy&diff=309944097&oldid=309236912 my edit] in order to quell the misconception that the OGG standard was REQUIRED when it was merely SUGGESTED. NOTE: if you wish to see a really good example of how good proprietary formats are at restricting the flow of information, simply load up a standard [[Debian]] Linux and use [[Iceweasel]] to web browse. Then, visit some pages such as [[YouTube]], [[MSNBC]], etc., and then navigate to their media sections. You will notice that very little, if any, of their media will be viewable in your browser. Lots of people do not know how to install software and browser plugins. Having a universally accepted media player, even if it is not the highest standard, is much better than being denied access to media for lack of an acceptable media player or EULA. [[Special:Contributions/97.126.100.51|97.126.100.51]] ([[User talk:97.126.100.51|talk]]) 09:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

:While discussion of changes you make to articles are welcome, please see [[WP:Soapboxing]] and [[WP:Talk pages]]. Talk pages are for discussing ways to improve the article. Your ideas on the evils of robber barons or EULAs or whatever are not appropriate for talk pages [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 22:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Which is more or less the reason the industry revolted: What is good for the

users is often bad for the user-hostile and user-despising companies that

produce much of todays software. Using ogg as standard would hinder their

plans, which is why they did not like it. This includes EULA-restrictions,

market-share, DRM-bull, and deliberate incompatibilities and attempts to

sabotage standards (in the case of, at least, one particular company).

(Not to mention the opportunity,

for the users, respectively risk, for the companies, that ogg's dominance

in the web would spread into other areas, making their multi-media products

entirely obsolete...)

[[Special:Contributions/94.220.246.219|94.220.246.219]] ([[User talk:94.220.246.219|talk]]) 10:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)