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::::http://ipv6and4.labs.wikimedia.org/stats.html appears to be working again. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 19:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Help ==

Please see the thread at [[Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#Accessing_Wikipedia_through_my_iPhone]]. Wikipedia is utterly unreachable through my phone and there is no option offered for accessing it. And I very much doubt I'm the only one. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 09:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== "Object does not support this method or property" on IE8 ==

The line <code>if( document.getElementsByClassName( 'shuffle' ) ){</code> is causing IE8 to whine that "Object does not support this property or method". Shouldn't it be something like <code>if( getElementsByClassName( document, 'div', 'shuffle' ) ){</code>? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] _{([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|Contact]])} 22:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

: Someone apparently forgot what he wrote [[Wikipedia:Editing the interface|here]] ;) —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 01:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, the fact that no edit to JavaScript is ''ever'' silent or unnoticeable... I haven't had a large fish slapped on my talk page yet, would someone like to oblige? <tt>:D</tt> <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 12:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I obliged! =D <span style=white-space:nowrap>「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#00f>ダイノ<span style=color:#080>ガイ]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#F90>千？！]]」^{[[Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000|<small style=font-weight:normal>Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]}</span></span> 21:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

:::This is quite enough. You started a thread on a talk page, didn't gain any type of consensus for the feature, and then added code to Common.js citing the discussion you started. What? Where in this chain of events did this seem like it was following any kind of guideline? This is simply unacceptable. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 19:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::: ... said the raven to the crow. And this horse is quite dead already anyway, thank you. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 19:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Um, no. This isn't the first "incident" with regard to the global JavaScript pages and this particular user. This is a demonstrated, repeated problem. The "omg trout me" nonsense is inappropriate in light of the circumstances. As is suggesting that commenting on this on July 14 when the original thread was started July 12 is beating a dead horse. Thanks. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 19:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::: No one is going to add this particular script back in. Melon himself acknowledged that the feature isn't wanted.<br>And concerning previous incidents, I haven't always had this page watchlisted, but at least [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] wasn't even ''edited'' by Happy Melon in the last six months. Could you enlighten me about details? [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 19:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::::It's a matter of excessive [[WP:BOLD|boldness]], in my view, but I don't think dragging out prior bad acts is really helpful. [[User:Aitias|Aitias]] left a note on Happy-melon's talk page. That should be sufficient (I hope). Happy-melon literally [[Wikipedia:Editing the interface|wrote the book]] on this particular problem (i.e., bold changes to MediaWiki messages), as Ruud pointed out. I hope not to see a repeat of this in the future. Our site is simply too big and too viewed to be making errors like this. Cheers. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 20:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::::: Which is pretty much what I said: Melon has been cautioned be several people and has accepted and acknowledged it. There was little need to rehash this, in particular when no evidence of a "demonstrated, repeated problem" is produced. Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 20:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Revertpage&diff=prev&oldid=301532579 Things like this] are what I'm talking about (and that was just looking at very recent contributions). There's an entire wiki devoted to testing (test.wikipedia.org) or there are dozens of test wikis available. There are other edits I could point out, but you seem to simultaneously want me to back away from this while also providing evidence to prove my point. I think they call this a "lose-lose" where I'm from. :-) --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 21:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::: I remembered that one. It's not on a JavaScript page affecting all users, which is where you previously saw a pattern, and after checking, in the half-year period I mentioned above Melon made {{diff2|269611734|exactly one other edit}} to a .js page in MediaWiki space. I don't know when the last incident might have been, but we're unbanning people in shorter periods so I think it's fair to say that yes, this ''was'' the first incident with regard to global JavaScript pages and this particular user.<br>And I don't really want anything. Your post, quite simply, appeared to me to have no purpose other than reviving an issue I felt was quite satisfyingly resolved, since I ''don't'' see a pattern of negligence in Melon's edits that needs addressing. And if there is, I think it's safe to say that the point has now sunken in with the reminders by numerous people on at least three pages, so that we hopefully can put this to rest. Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 21:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

: Perhaps the warning that appears when you try to edit this page should be tweaked to encourage a little more though before making a bold edit and state the possible consequences of introducing errors on this page (e.g. popping up an error box for 75% of all visitors.) And maybe be it should be red and blinking as well :p —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 22:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::How about

{{Site JS editnotice}}

::?? <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 12:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I like it; it's slightly amusing yet clearly serious. I'd put the whole first sentence in bold, personally, as that's the really important part. [[User:Ale_jrb|<font color="green">A</font><small><font color="green">le_Jrb</font>]]</small>^{[[User_talk:Ale_jrb|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]} 13:08, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Same here. Give me a minute, and I'll tweak the wording, too. =) <span style=white-space:nowrap>「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#00f>ダイノ<span style=color:#080>ガイ]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#F90>千？！]]」^{[[Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]}</span></span> 18:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)