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:::::: Yes, I see the point. While I agree it's irrelevant at the individual household level, the section starts with the savings at the national level. At that level I don't agree that it's completely irrelevant, but it is true that finding unbiased and verifiable study assessing the effects is difficult. OK, I'm withdrawing my comment, at least until I find some relevant information. --[[Special:Contributions/193.169.48.48|193.169.48.48]] ([[User talk:193.169.48.48|talk]]) 09:05, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Yeah, but, what's the source of the concern? A distribution system that was supporting an entire city with X MVA worth of incandescent lamps on Friday will certainly support X/2 MVA worth of CFLs the Monday after the great lightbulb switch. What are the "power factor" people really concerned about, since it's obviously not "extra" load on the power system? Don't forget that the household that just swapped CFLs for incandescent bulbs also has a couple of TV sets, a couple of computers and monitors, a microwave oven with a phase-controlled power supply, various thyristor-controlled appliances and power tools...household loads are non-linear anyway, and changing to CFLs helps in as much as it reduces total load. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 16:16, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Hi, I'm a "power factor" person. What I'm concerned about is that with a general ban on incandescents, special-purpose lighting applications will become difficult. Every light relay will have to be oversized, every dimmer redesigned, etc. And I can't afford to wait for the industry to make consumer-grade versions of these things only to discover that they're too noisy or ugly or broken or incompetently designed or whatever. I need to continue using incandescents in my special applications while the CFL industry is catching up. For a garage, CFLs are fine, but not for studios, museums, etc.
==A sense of proportion==
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