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:::By the way, I did email both, and it didn't get very far. [[User:Itsmejudith|Itsmejudith]] ([[User talk:Itsmejudith|talk]]) 09:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Not quite accurate, Itsmejudith. I emailed Ludwigs2 revealing who I was, etc. He did not reply. You then on July 15 suggested that you act as mediator. You wrote, "I believe that the classic approach to mediation is to ask both parties: what result would you like to get out of this. Can you respond to that?" I explained on your talk page that this was an extra layer of complication beyond this ArbCom case that was not required. Even on this page Ludwigs2 makes the false assertion that I edit a whole raft of fringe articles. Elsewhere, as I describe in my evidence, he claimed that I stopped him from editing fringe articles. These assertions are pure fantasy on his part. I can't see how the "scientific point of view" enters into this discussion. I have never had a very clear idea what people mean by it: often I've seen it used as an excuse for people to write articles in mathematics or mathematical physics without using secondary sources, inventing their own "proofs", possibly incorrect (i.e. [[WP:OR]]); I have no idea what it supposed to mean in the present circumstances or why indeed it's relevant. In the relatively small amount of editing I have done related to the [[History of the race and intelligence controversy]] (now more or less ended), I have steered clear of "science" and stuck to history, which is well recorded in [[WP:RS]] and therefore relatively easy to write. If I edit mathematics or mathematical physics articles, I start by locating sources. As far as I'm aware, Ludwigs2 has not edited any articles on wikipedia that could be described as "mainstream science": certainly, [[Orgone]], one of his favourite articles, does not appear to be within the realms of science. On EB it's only discussed in the biography of [[Wilhelm Reich]]. [[User:Mathsci|Mathsci]] ([[User talk:Mathsci|talk]]) 10:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Wow Mathsci, you do love your ad hominems, don't you. lol... --[[User_talk:Ludwigs2|<span style="color:darkblue;font-weight:bold">Ludwigs</span><span style="color:green;font-weight:bold">2</span>]] 12:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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