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::Unless there is way too much material for a sensibly sized but still thorough article on [[Group differences and intelligence]] then my gut instinct is that keeping material together in a single article with the race issues kept as a small part is a preferable way forward. [[User:EdChem|EdChem]] ([[User talk:EdChem|talk]]) 13:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Thanks for these comments. All the above points are reasonable. If any arbitrator expressed an interest in this idea, I would be happy to provide a point-by-point commentary, but my sense is that none are. The key point is that "there is way too much material for a sensibly sized but still thorough article." Just as we had to (and it was a good thing that we did) make [[History of the race and intelligence controversy]] a daughter article, we will need to do that for other material as well. The only question is if this process will occur under Arb Com's supervision. I think it should. [[User:David.Kane|David.Kane]] ([[User talk:David.Kane|talk]]) 23:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: [[Group differences and intelligence]] would provide for more room to discuss statistics and heritability (within group versus between group and implications definitely needs better WP coverage) without being overshadowed by "race." [[User:Vecrumba|P<small>ЄTЄRS</small> <s>J</s> V<small>ЄСRUМВА</small>]]<small> ►[[User_talk:Vecrumba|TALK]]</small> 00:19, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

::: EdChem, you wrote, "My thought was a single article of which racial topics is only a small part rather than a parent article to group together the current bunch of stand-alone articles." This would be my thought too. I think it would help the article now under ArbCom review to make its title [[Group differences in IQ]] ''without'' hiving off a lot of daughter articles, for the reasons you have mentioned. Just like the example Mathsci mentioned about European ethnic groups, sometimes a simple change in article title does a lot to make an article less of a POV-pushing magnet. Thanks to you for focusing on this suggestion and to David for posting it as a new thread here. I agree with the idea of '''one''' one-stop-shopping article, without numerous daughter articles, kept at a summary level of presentation with full reliance on [[WP:MEDRS | secondary sources of greatest reliability]]. -- [[User:WeijiBaikeBianji|WeijiBaikeBianji]] ([[User talk:WeijiBaikeBianji|talk]]) 15:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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