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Yes, there are many gaps in the article, not only this one, I agree, but my sources are mainly about history of serbs in Vojvodina, thus I do not have much information about other non-Serb local rulers of the region to write about them (I found information about Ugrin Čak, and I wrote this). Also, the situation about Ugrin Čak and stefan Dragutin is not quite clear. Seems that only Ugrin Čak ruled over present day Vojvodina, while one source claim that Ugrin Čak was a vassal of Stefan Dragutin, thus the rule of Stefan Dragutin over Vojvodina was only nominal. Also, Stefan Dragutin certainly was not governor, but rather "ban" (if he really got that lands only to govern them), but he in fact got these lands as a "possesion". As for the maps of Europe you refering to, are that maps from Euratlas? Which of them is different in the case of Srem? [[User:PANONIAN|<font color="blue">'''PANONIAN'''</font>]] [[User talk:PANONIAN|<font color="green">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 00:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
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Yes, he was not certanly not governor:), but that word was first thing I could think of, and I think that at that moment it served it purpuse. As I remember (unfortunutly I can not quote you the source, it was a long time ago I read this:) that in statment ('povelja' is original name I can't think of apropriate translation now) those lands (Usora, Soli and Mačva) are given to him as lands of Hungary (now goes the foolfull title of the king, names including Croatia:) for gouvernship ('na upravu' was stated in original I read) unfortunatley I didn't cheked it up for their trutfullnes, but book was of some prestigious historian, so there was no need at that moment for that (I'll try this weekend to dig something up, and if I am sucksesfull in it I'll let you know:).
 
I remembered commentary that in that statment it is clearly shown that those lands are not given to any other king, but rather that Hungarian king still views them as part of its kingdom(s)