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:{{Done}} - <span style="border:1px solid grey;padding:1px;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<font style="color:white;background:grey;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Fallschirmjäger '''</font>]] [[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|✉]] </span> 19:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you very much!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 22:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
== Persia ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Persia]]
'''Request:''' close crop... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 14:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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{{Done}} edge perspective and crop. [[User:Begoon|<font face="Arial" color="#0645AD">'''Begoon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Begoon|<font style="color:#808080;font-weight:bold;"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 07:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you as always!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 09:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
== Pedro II of Brazil ==
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File:Pedro_II_1853_1.JPG|Emperor [[Pedro II of Brazil]] wearing a Marshal of the Army's court dress around age 25, c. 1851.
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'''Article(s):''' [[Pedro II of Brazil]]
'''Request:''' Hi, everyone, good night! I was wondering if any of you could help me out with this one. There is a picture of Emperor [[Pedro II of Brazil]] that've I tried to color it (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pedro_II_1853_1.JPG]). However, my skills are close to... none and I was unable to make his beard and hair blond. And I also believe his skin color is not close to how it truly was (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RetratodompedroIIcrianca.JPG] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pedro_II_of_Brazil_by_Rugendas_1846.jpg] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Delfim-pedroII-MHN.jpg]). I'd like to warn you all that it is in fact a photomontage of a photograph of Pedro II (his head) and a painting of his (the body and background), both done in 1851. If you could also make that photomontage look better, that is, more real, it would be great. I am going to nominate the article for featured status so wanted everything to look perfect. Thank you all very much! [[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 00:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{Done}} Guess its okay now. Feel free to revert or ask for further improvements. [[:en:User:Finemann|<b><FONT COLOR="#153E7E">Fi</FONT><FONT COLOR="#1569C7">ne</FONT><FONT COLOR="#157DEC">ma</FONT><FONT COLOR="#1589FF">nn</FONT></b>]] [[:en:User_talk:Finemann|<b><FONT COLOR="#3B9C9C">(talk)</FONT></b>]] 08:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you very much, Finemann! There is one problem left to deal with, however: his heair and beard color. As can be ssen in these paintings (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RetratodompedroIIcrianca.JPG] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pedro_II_of_Brazil_by_Rugendas_1846.jpg] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Delfim-pedroII-MHN.jpg]) it had a yellowish tone. Is someone capable of fixing that? Regards, --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 12:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
{{Done}} I hope you find it satisfactory. The picture was also very reddish and dark so I made some enhancements to go with the blond hair. Regards, -- [[User:Orionist|<font color="#0066CC">'''Orionist'''</font>]] ★ [[User talk:Orionist|<font color="#0066CC">talk</font>]] 19:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:I believe its fine, now. Thank you very much! --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 11:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
== multiple ==
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:Image:JTI Cigarettes are hot.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Cigarettes can damage bare arms.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Binning cigarettes.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Child safety.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Coat consideration.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Winter 2006 collection.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI drains are not ashtrays.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
Image:JTI Cigarettes are lethal.jpg|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Pocket ashtrays.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI smoke issues.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI Snow and cigarettes.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
:Image:JTI tobacco graffiti.jpg <!--Non-Free file removed by DASHBot-->|<center>{{done}}</center>
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'''Article(s):''' [[Smoking in Japan]]
'''Request:''' fix perspective, trim... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 11:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
Done two of them so far... <span style="border:1px solid grey;padding:1px;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<font style="color:white;background:grey;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Fallschirmjäger '''</font>]] [[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|✉]] </span> 21:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:3 more done. <span style="border:1px solid grey;padding:1px;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<font style="color:white;background:grey;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Fallschirmjäger '''</font>]] [[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|✉]] </span> 17:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{done}} - All of them are done now. The last one was hard to work on but I've managed to sort out most of its distortion. Hope they are ok! <span style="border:1px solid grey;padding:1px;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<font style="color:white;background:grey;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Fallschirmjäger '''</font>]] [[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|✉]] </span> 21:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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:御疲れ様です! Thank you so much for your hard work! That last one must have been a bear!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 05:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Are these photographs of signs in Japan? If so then they're probably all derivative works and will need deleted. — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 05:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Based on what? These are all fair-use images hosted on the English Wikipedia.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::The artwork on them would pass the threshold of originality to grant it copyright protection to the creator... Thus the photos of the signs are derivative works and we would require OTRS of the original creator of the signs artwork to allow their use here. — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 06:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:They are still under the same rules as movie posters and PSAs-only a reason for non-overuse, not a call to mass-delete.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Are you trying to say your claiming [[WP:NFC]]? They wouldn't pass [[WP:NFCC]], you'd have to choose ONE of them, and even then the way it's used in the article does not justify a non-free media claim. Secondly they're not even labeled as such, so I tagged them all as no-evidence-for-permission, since they're copyrighted works of Japan Tobacco International (JTI), they was advertisements. And finally, if they are non-free media they CAN'T be displayed here! — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 07:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually because of those claims I re-tagged them as missing fair-use rationale, but be warned, none of these will pass [[WP:NFCC]] and all will be deleted under that most likely. In hindsight I think it was silly of me to assume that the flickr user was an official agent of [http://www.jti.com JTI] and that there was no realistic expectation of the possibly of getting evidence of permission. — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 07:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, even if these signs are permanently in a public place, Japanese law [[Commons:COM:FOP#Japan|doesn't seem to be on our side here]]. I can see them potentially being used under our non-free content criteria, but, almost certainly, as Raeky says, only one of them. In what article did you intend to use them? [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 19:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:I believe [[Smoking in Japan]], it does discuss these ads in one paragraph in the "Japanese smoking culture" section, but I'm skeptical that it needs an illustration of it under fair-use. I don't think the wording of the article would justify [[WP:NFCC]]#8. — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font> 02:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, there's a brief, unsourced mention. If there were a couple of sources in the paragraph, and the style of the image was discussed (as it is now) I don't think I'd have too much objection to one of them being used. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 09:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
== Bandolero ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Bandolero]]
'''Request:''' crop edging down past tape stains... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 22:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{Done}} cropped and cleaned up a little - but very low res, so there are limits... [[User:Begoon|<font face="Arial" color="#0645AD">'''Begoon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Begoon|<font style="color:#808080;font-weight:bold;"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 08:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's much better than it was, thank you!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 09:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::Again, you HAVE to use {{tl|GLNF}} when linking fair-use images here! This time a warning. — <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Raeky|<span style="background:#669900;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">raeky</span>]][[User talk:Raeky|<span style="background:#99CC66;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font> 10:30, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Oh gosh, a '''''warning'''''! Whatever shall I do?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 11:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
== Clapham Junction ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Clapham Junction]]
'''Request:''' crop down excess border and black line at bottom... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 05:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{Done}}: tweak angle, min retouch, crop [[User:Begoon|<font face="Arial" color="#0645AD">'''Begoon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Begoon|<font style="color:#808080;font-weight:bold;"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 08:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:That's what I wanted, thank you sir!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 09:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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