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:I've seen "pinyin" both capitalised and not, which suggests it's not normally or by default, and it is when used as e.g. headings in tables. Notably [[Pinyin]] does not have it capitalised except as a heading or name, which is what I'd expect. The same except more so for "traditional" and "simplified" which are just terms, and are again often seen uncapitalised unless at the start of sentences or headings: one example is the article [[Debate on traditional and simplified Chinese characters]].--<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 00:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, the [[Pinyin]] article seems to be inconsistent in capitalization. I didn't bother checking the whole article, but in the [[Pinyin#Usage|Usage]] section there are several instances where it's capitalized mid-sentence, and several where it's not. This is fairly common in articles that have "rotted" (i.e., the primary contributor[s] are no longer paying attention and small edits have been made here and there by inexperienced editors who don't have an eye for keeping the article consistent). <b class="IPA">[[Special:Contributions/Rjanag|r<font color="#8B0000">ʨ</font>anaɢ]]</b> ([[User talk:Rjanag|talk]]) 00:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
== Traditional/simplified character order in [[Template:Zh]]: a new proposal ==
::''copying this spam message to here, just in case there is anyone watching this page who didn't get the message in their user talk page''
As you probably know, currently if you want traditional characters to display before simplified characters when using this template, you have to write {{para|first|t}} every time you use the template, which can be a pain in long articles, and which raises complaints about political and practical problems with making simplified characters the "default".
So I am trying to write up a version of the template in which you set a traditional/simplified choice setting just once (specifically, on a subpage of the article where you're using the template), and then every instance of the template on that article uses the ordering you set. Further details about the new setup are '''[[User:Rjanag/samplearticle|here]]'''; if you have a moment I would very much appreciate your input, specifically about any potential problems you can imagine or any ways this can be made better.
Thank you, <b class="IPA">[[Special:Contributions/Rjanag|r<font color="#8B0000">ʨ</font>anaɢ]]</b> ([[User talk:Rjanag|talk]]) 01:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
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