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:::::Ok, I worded that poorly John Barber. I also don't think anyone should be given a free pass. That being said, with the seriousness of this case we can't ignore the outside influences which the arbitrators apparently agree because that part is passing the last time I looked. What you didn't respond to was my comment right above yours about why it's not right in my humble opinion to sanction everyone the same. I didn't state that sentence clearly that you mention and for that I apologize to everyone. --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:Indigo">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 19:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I partly agree and discussed that a bit further up on the page. If ArbCom actually implements the topic bans, overall it will be an improvement, I think. -- [[User:JohnWBarber|JohnWBarber]] ([[User talk:JohnWBarber|talk]]) 21:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
== Inclusiveness ==
{{cot|Per the final point, it looks like this one has run its course. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] <sup>([[User talk:Lankiveil|speak to me]])</sup> 21:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)}}
Noticing editors lamenting about other editors leaving Wikipedia, and in the spirit of how to improve. I suggest working for content and an editing environment that afford reasonable inclusiveness. Pushing issues to the nebulous realm of the elusive expert with high standards has a place and time; however, when things go to far, I suspect and exclusive environment leads to editors being excluded by their own will or administration action. [[User:ZuluPapa5|Zulu Papa 5 *]] ([[User talk:ZuluPapa5|talk]]) 21:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:I have to be honest, but what are you saying? --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:Indigo">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 23:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:: I said it above, what was tempting you to be dishonest? [[User:ZuluPapa5|Zulu Papa 5 *]] ([[User talk:ZuluPapa5|talk]]) 14:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Not getting at you in particular, Zulu Papa 5, but I think we've all been a bit too snarky in this case and the above might sound rather more abrasive than both of you had hoped. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|TS]] 14:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::ZuluPapa is well used to editors asking what he means. His comments are often a little off the wall. [[User:Olap the Ogre|Olap the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Olap the Ogre|talk]]) 14:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::: It's not clear to me where CrohnieGal is having difficulty. So, I tried to ask (had something to do with honesty, I guess) Apologies for the terseness. [[User:ZuluPapa5|Zulu Papa 5 *]] ([[User talk:ZuluPapa5|talk]]) 14:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I don't know how to respond to this so I have asked for some advice. Please be patient so that I understand what I am supposed to have done wrong here. Thanks in advance, --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:Indigo">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 18:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::My view is that ZuluPapa5 comment made little sense because the context for the statement was unclear. The theory is that ZuluPapa5 understands the context of his <s>question</s>statement, so it would seem that it is clear to him. I don't see anything wrong or even snarky in Crohnie's question. [[User:Bill Huffman|Bill Huffman]] ([[User talk:Bill Huffman|talk]]) 18:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Response to [[User:ZuluPapa5|Zulu Papa 5 *]]''' I want to apologize to you if I caused you any distress or hurt your feelings in anyway. If I did, I promise it was unintentional. Again, I'm sorry. Would a clerk or an arbitrator please hat this discussion as it now serves for no useful purpose? Thank you, --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:Indigo">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 22:28, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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