:Hi Prat, I am from the WikiProject Systems and have taken a look. I have been writing about related subjects, but I am no expert here. I think you proposal is very difficult to judge if your not a real expert here. Three of those four articles seems (relatively) well developed and they have a long history. I guess you are right that there is an overlap, but that is not uncommon nowadays. I don't see the real need here. And one more thing. These subjects seems to be separated in other Wikipedia's as well. Just based on these impressions I would vote against it. -- [[User:Mdd|Mdd]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 20:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
::Here's a quote from Microsoft in an article titled 'Microsoft on the Enterprise Service Bus (ESB)': "The ESB label simply implies that a product is some type of integration middleware product that supports both MOM ([[Message-oriented middleware]]) and Web services protocols."[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa475433(BTS.10).aspx microsoft.com] [[User:Pratyeka|prat]] ([[User talk:Pratyeka|talk]]) 05:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:: I am against merging [[Middleware]] with [[Message-oriented middleware]] and [[Enterprise service bus]]. I am ok with merging [[Message Broker]] into [[Message-oriented middleware]]. I am ok with having some (if not all) of [[Enterprise messaging system]] into [[Message-oriented middleware]]. These are completely different things. A middleware is just any infrastructure framework or system. So yes, an ESB is a middleware, just like an application server is while they are very different in what they do. A MOM can be accessed by an ESB, but en ESB can also access Web services or a DB, etc. Disjoint again. A [[message broker]] is actually a MOM so I think it is safe to merge them together. However, it is also an enterprise design pattern, so I think we can remove some work you cannot really make it disappear like this. Finally [[Enterprise messaging system]] is (as described in the article itself) a set of practices, not any implementation really, but there is an enormous overlap with [[Message-oriented middleware]]. I suppose some (if not all) of this can be merged? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JnRouvignac|JnRouvignac]] ([[User talk:JnRouvignac|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JnRouvignac|contribs]]) 17:0204, 15 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
