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Where are you from Squeakbox? I have recently made a trip from Miami to Los Angeles, crossing the country from East to West by car and then back, and in addition to the place names, so many of them in Spanish (In New Mexico even the road signs are in Spanish), you could just speak Spanish all the they down to California without having to use any English at all if you did not want to.
:Alright, there's a lot of absurdity that's gone into this rehashed [ad nauseum] subject (although the last assertion there really takes the absurdity cake)... Essentially, however, the problem is US hypernationalists pushing the POV that since Spanish isn't the foremost language of the US, that the US shouldn't be mentioned, opposed by a group of hyperproud hispanoparlantes pushing the POV that since Spanish is the 2nd most widely-spoken language in the US (which makes them very proud), that the US must be mentioned. My POV is that both camps are wrong to use the arguments they're using...what should be being discussed is the affect this argument is having on the article. Nobody, AFAIK, is arguing to exclude the US from the discussion of the geographical distribution of Spanish [speakers] later on in the article. So, what's the issue? "We disagree about the infobox." The fact of the matter is that this discussion is never going to go anywhere. Neither side will convince the other. We need, instead, to come up with an agreement about the parameters that will be used in order to determine what will and will not be included in the infobox. I am, of course, compelled to agree with Grace Note's recommendation (which, as it happens, is identical to what I recommended [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASpanish_language&diff=15111215&oldid=14917548 here] 9 months ago already). [[User:TShilo12|Tom]]<font color="#008000">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|e]]</font>[[User:TShilo12|r]][[User talk:TShilo12|<sup style="font-variant: small-caps; color: #129dbc!important;">talk</sup>]] 03:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
== Castellano vs. Español ==
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