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*'''Delete''' as a non-notable variation of [[Particle swarm optimization]] (PSO). Of the 5 references, only one relates to the subject, and it's an unrefereed and uncited report. There has indeed also been a 2011 journal paper by Yeh, but it has not yet been cited at all, so there is no indication that this variation of PSO is notable. In addition, the term "Simplified Swarm Optimization" also appears in a number of publications by Noorhaniza Wahid, but in those cases it refers to a different method of the same name, which makes this a poor article title. -- [[Special:Contributions/202.124.74.243|202.124.74.243]] ([[User talk:202.124.74.243|talk]]) 06:47, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

:* Would the IP care to elaborate on these (incorrect afaik) statements? You first say that only one of the 5 references relates to the subject, only to follow up explaining that others are also related but you don't like them?! I just read through the linked reference from Kennedy and Eberhart and it is about this article, no matter how they call it (mostly "simplified version" etc.) Also, I do not follow your requirements for reports... it sounds like you only accept reports from scientists when they have references for their findings? Would be history instead of science imho. --[[User:DeVerm|DeVerm]] ([[User talk:DeVerm|talk]]) 15:03, 24 July 2011 (UTC).

::* I think what he means is that 4 of the references are about Particle swarm optimizations in general and were published many years prior to Yehs. Looking at the dates of the publications, I would have to agree. The only reference I see that is directly related was the one published by the author. That isn't to say that subject couldn't eventually become notable, but I can't find any other 3rd party work citing this work or any website/conference/journal/etc that mention the paper besides Wikipedia and http://ieemweb.ie.nthu.edu.tw/project/index.php?num=7 (which appears to be the university page where Yeh attends or attended). [[User:Snaphat|snaphat]] ([[User talk:Snaphat|talk]]) 03:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Only one reference is directly related to the article in question. The other 4 are related to Particle swarm optimizations in general and were published many years before the variant in question existed. Moreover, The one citation that is directly related is from the author and is simply a research grant proposal title with no information. The citation is written such that it looks like a report, but is simply taking the funding duration for the project and using that as the dates mentioned. See http://ieemweb.ie.nthu.edu.tw/project/index.php?num=7 . If anyone has access to the report mentioned or can verify its existence do share as I cannot find any 3rd party information or even verify the content of the article without a primary/secondary/tertiary source. [[User:Snaphat|snaphat]] ([[User talk:Snaphat|talk]]) 04:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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::* I think what he means is that 4 of the references are about Particle swarm optimizations in general and were published many years prior to Yehs. Looking at the dates of the publications, I would have to agree. The only reference I see that is directly related was the one published by the author. That isn't to say that subject couldn't eventually become notable, but I can't find any other 3rd party work citing this work or any website/conference/journal/etc that mention the paper besides Wikipedia and http://ieemweb.ie.nthu.edu.tw/project/index.php?num=7 (which appears to be the university page where Yeh attends or attended). [[User:Snaphat|snaphat]] ([[User talk:Snaphat|talk]]) 03:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Only one reference is directly related to the article in question. The other 4 are related to Particle swarm optimizations in general and were published many years before the variant in question existed. Moreover, The one citation that is directly related is from the author and is simply a research grant proposal title with no information. The citation is written such that it looks like a report, but is simply taking the funding duration for the project and using that as the dates mentioned. See http://ieemweb.ie.nthu.edu.tw/project/index.php?num=7 . If anyone has access to the report mentioned or can verify its existence do share as I cannot find any 3rd party information or even verify the content of the article without a primary/secondary/tertiary source. [[User:Snaphat|snaphat]] ([[User talk:Snaphat|talk]]) 04:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

:::* Yes I understand that he looked at the title of the documents. I have actually read them and found descriptions of the simplified form inside. Sources do not require a title that is an exact match... they require to have the matching content described in detail, but it does NOT need to be the main subject. --[[User:DeVerm|DeVerm]] ([[User talk:DeVerm|talk]]) 04:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC).

::::* The sources you refer to were written prior to the simplified forms existence according to what the article states. So either the article is incorrect or something else is up. I will check the sources myself tomorrow. [[User:Snaphat|snaphat]] ([[User talk:Snaphat|talk]]) 04:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)