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::So the sentence means exactly what it said. Most women do contract HPV, and most of them do so soon after becoming sexually active.
::So I restored the sentence. I thought it had the benefit of being brief, but if you think it is too concise for clarity we can try to improve it. [[User:Zodon|Zodon]] ([[User talk:Zodon|talk]]) 08:57, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 
:::The specific claim that (1) "most women contract it" and (2) "most who do contract it do so soon after becoming sexually active" implies (3) "most women contract it soon after becoming sexually active", is fallacious; for example, say 80% contract it, and 60% of those contract it soon after becoming sexually active -- then (1) and (2) are both satisfied, but (3) is not -- that would only be 60% of 80% = 48% of the total population. However, it is obviously ''possible'' to satisfy all three, but the data -- even in [[Human_papillomaviruses#Epidemiology|in the article linked to justify the claim]] -- doesn't seem to back it up. There ''is'' data that supports (1) (so my initial gut feeling that most women don't contract it was flat out wrong), but I don't see any that supports (2)...from the article: ''"Estimates of HPV prevalence vary from 14% to more than 90%"'' -- and most of them seem to be on the lower end. It seems the only way to get over 50% is is to look at the proportion who get it ''at least once in their lifetime''.
 
:::In any case, since I'm not a doctor or an epidemiologist, I'm not going to remove the sentence...but in hopes of attracting someone more credible and knowledgeable than me to take a look at it, I am going to make the claim explicit -- the sentence will be changed to "More than three quarters of all women will contract HPV at some point in their lives, and more than half of all women will contract it soon after becoming sexually active." That way, no one can look at it and think "Oh, they must mean 'most women who DO contract it contract it shortly after becoming sexually active'", which is how I interpreted it as well...the only reason I said anything was because I thought it was a humorous / unfortunate choice of words. [[Special:Contributions/184.18.13.121|184.18.13.121]] ([[User talk:184.18.13.121|talk]]) 20:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 
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