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:::In any case, since I'm not a doctor or an epidemiologist, I'm not going to remove the sentence...but in hopes of attracting someone more credible and knowledgeable than me to take a look at it, I am going to make the claim explicit -- the sentence will be changed to "More than three quarters of all women will contract HPV at some point in their lives, and more than half of all women will contract it soon after becoming sexually active." That way, no one can look at it and think "Oh, they must mean 'most women who DO contract it contract it shortly after becoming sexually active'", which is how I interpreted it as well...the only reason I said anything was because I thought it was a humorous / unfortunate choice of words. [[Special:Contributions/184.18.13.121|184.18.13.121]] ([[User talk:184.18.13.121|talk]]) 20:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
::::The assertion that most women contract HPV shortly after after starting having sex is not based on reasoning from 1) and 2). The discussion above was pointing out that 1) and 2) and 3) are all verifiable, not reasoning from 1 and 2 to derive 3.
::::I reverted the change to the wording of the section because it was not supported by the reference given, and it made the paragraph less clear by introducing material that was not directly relevant. The point is that those who recently started sex are at low risk of cancer, but highly likely to show changes due to initial HPV infection, so they should not be screened. In this context the only relevant claim is 2 "most who do contract it do so soon after becoming sexually active."
::::As indicated by the dead link flag, the source has changed. [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Pap_test&diff=443671265&oldid=442266912 this edit fixed the dead link] However the source no longer supports this item.
::::In looking back through the [http://web.archive.org/web/20080410201813/http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_Can_cervical_cancer_be_prevented_8.asp? wayback archive for the page in question ] I have not yet found the version that did support the item. As such I have added a note indicating that additional/fresh citation would be helpful. [[User:Zodon|Zodon]] ([[User talk:Zodon|talk]]) 22:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
== painful smear tests ==
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