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That file has no source or author info. Suggest fixing that first. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 23:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
==Randy Johnson==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Randy Johnson]]
'''Request:''' Is there a way to reduce the shadow in this picture? &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 03:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
:Which shadow, and why? [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 03:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
::Mainly the shadow under the brim of his hat that obscures his eyes. If anything could be done to reduce the shadow on his legs, I think that would benefit as well. As to why, Randy Johnson is one of the all time greats, and as you can see on the file's description page, this image is used on a lot of pages that talk about his impact on the game. Further, although I'm only starting to read into it, I wonder if reducing the shadow would make this a featured picture candidate. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 13:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
:::I think this picture is fine just the way it is. Messing with the shadows won't improve anything and might make the photo look a little funky & unnatural. Sometimes leaving an image alone is the wisest choice. This is one of those times. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 19:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::::I forgot about this one and quickly tried to lighten the face. Noise is horrible and thus as Jbarta said, the gain would be marginal, at significant effort (further brightening requires facial reconstruction from a separate face-profile photo - the eye area details are just absent). I saved my edit, partly to add jpeg compression (it was zero), and thus the file loads faster, but feel free to revert. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 07:34, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::The full file size doesn't affect how fast an image loads in an article. Thumbnails are generated which are separate smaller versions of the main file. It is these smaller versions that appear in the article, not the 4MB full size original. Even the image page itself (the page you get when you click on a thumbnail) uses a large thumnail (for large images) rather than the original image. And if by chance someone continues clicking through to grab that original image, with broadband connections being the norm rather than the exception, a 4MB file will come in mere seconds. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 17:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::All true, but. When I want to see a large WP file (like this one) our firewall software (rather common soft from McAfee) does not allow showing the image but saves it instead. Also, wikipedia servers connection is often slow these months (this affects image down/upload). [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 22:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Wikipedia does have peak load times like any other web site. That's immaterial. And if your firewall software save jpgs over a certain size rather than simply displaying them in the browser, I'd imaging that's something you can change or configure. In my experience that is not normal behavior and a 4MB jpg is hardly an unusual or rare occurance. 40MB maybe, but not 4MB. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 23:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::::That's not a local firewall, and this is a recent worldwide tendency, setting filters (they start from adult site filtering and then configure other "user-assisting" settings) going up to country levels. Our limit is around 1Mb (yeah, ridiculous), but it is floating. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 23:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::You say "our limit".... who is "our"? [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 00:57, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
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